http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/09/28/atandts-tilt-kaiser-variation-spotted-in-the-wild/ Engadget Mobile Comments for AT&T's "Tilt" Kaiser variation spotted in the wild http://mobile.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://mobile.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/09/28/atandts-tilt-kaiser-variation-spotted-in-the-wild/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/09/28/atandts-tilt-kaiser-variation-spotted-in-the-wild/Sep 28th 2007 11:41AMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2007/09/28/atandts-tilt-kaiser-variation-spotted-in-the-wild/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/09/28/atandts-tilt-kaiser-variation-spotted-in-the-wild/Sep 28th 2007 1:06PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2007/09/28/atandts-tilt-kaiser-variation-spotted-in-the-wild/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/09/28/atandts-tilt-kaiser-variation-spotted-in-the-wild/Sep 28th 2007 12:53PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2007/09/28/atandts-tilt-kaiser-variation-spotted-in-the-wild/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/09/28/atandts-tilt-kaiser-variation-spotted-in-the-wild/Sep 28th 2007 12:04PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2007/09/28/atandts-tilt-kaiser-variation-spotted-in-the-wild/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/09/28/atandts-tilt-kaiser-variation-spotted-in-the-wild/Sep 28th 2007 1:21PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2007/09/28/atandts-tilt-kaiser-variation-spotted-in-the-wild/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/09/28/atandts-tilt-kaiser-variation-spotted-in-the-wild/Sep 28th 2007 5:26PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2007/09/28/atandts-tilt-kaiser-variation-spotted-in-the-wild/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/09/28/atandts-tilt-kaiser-variation-spotted-in-the-wild/
Phones are locked to carrier. Hardware, as a rule, generally is not. Unless you're talking about Verizon's bluetooth, of course...]]>Sep 28th 2007 6:36PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2007/09/28/atandts-tilt-kaiser-variation-spotted-in-the-wild/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/09/28/atandts-tilt-kaiser-variation-spotted-in-the-wild/
But DANG Verizon...AT&T will ship the TyTn 2 before you even ship the 6800/TyTn. Get with the freaking program will ya!]]>Sep 28th 2007 1:22PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2007/09/28/atandts-tilt-kaiser-variation-spotted-in-the-wild/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/09/28/atandts-tilt-kaiser-variation-spotted-in-the-wild/
This thing has really got me looking at AT&T's coverage and considering giving them a chance. Wish they had more 3g coverage.

Anyone know of a site with info regarding their future 3g plans?]]>Sep 28th 2007 1:54PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2007/09/28/atandts-tilt-kaiser-variation-spotted-in-the-wild/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/09/28/atandts-tilt-kaiser-variation-spotted-in-the-wild/
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But that seems to be the popular (and unnecessary) debate... whether AT&T will cripple the GPS to only use Telenav. As far as I can remember, I've never noticed AT&T taking a perfectly usable device and crippling it. Yes they removed the front camera on the 8525 as well as the Tilt. But the price for the Hermes and Tytyn II is always a few hundred more than the AT&T devices, even without contract discount. You get what you pay for, but I don't think I need the front camera enough to pay $200 for it.

So my apologies to Engadget if I misread your no-Tom-Tom statement.]]>Sep 28th 2007 2:55PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2007/09/28/atandts-tilt-kaiser-variation-spotted-in-the-wild/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/09/28/atandts-tilt-kaiser-variation-spotted-in-the-wild/
Dude, you get props in my book.

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Yeah, to me, AT&T is normally good about not crippling phones. The only thing I can think of is how they removed WiFi from the Nokia e61 and downgrading the screen from 16.7M colors to 262K. But this wasn't an attempt to cripple the features, it was an attempt to make the phone more affordable and encourage people to buy PDA phones, being that it was affordable. They even changed it from Nokia's normal connection to miniUSB to also help accomplish these ends.

Anyway, seeing as the Tilt has a VERY good price point, the most I can see them doing is removing hardware--such as the front-facing camera--but I don't see their locking the remaining hardware to their software, either. We'll just have to wait and see, I guess.]]>Sep 28th 2007 8:17PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2007/09/28/atandts-tilt-kaiser-variation-spotted-in-the-wild/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/09/28/atandts-tilt-kaiser-variation-spotted-in-the-wild/Sep 28th 2007 3:46PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2007/09/28/atandts-tilt-kaiser-variation-spotted-in-the-wild/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/09/28/atandts-tilt-kaiser-variation-spotted-in-the-wild/Sep 29th 2007 1:40AMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2007/09/28/atandts-tilt-kaiser-variation-spotted-in-the-wild/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/09/28/atandts-tilt-kaiser-variation-spotted-in-the-wild/
128MB of Flash ROM and RAM.
MicroSD supports up to 32GB.
Built in GPS (not sure if locked or not, will try to get more details).
Bluetooth (duh).
Wifi (duh).
3.0MP camera.
Soft touch rubber stuff all over the bottom half of the phone.
at&t employees told shipment within the first 2 weeks of October.
$350 out the door with $100 MIR with $40+ data package for new accounts and upgrades.
Around $500 full retail.

If any of you get a phone from at&t and get the MIR form, just look on there... the Tilt and Pantech DUO are on there.

Expect them soon.


.Saint.
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Tyler71]]>Oct 2nd 2007 7:04PM