http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/ Engadget Mobile Comments for Another look at the BlackBerry 8320 for T-Mobile http://mobile.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://mobile.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/I didn't sign up for the Blackberry or data plan since my away from home needs for that were minimal, but I was told I could use those features at a hotspot.
Here's my disappointments:
1. No data or internet use from your own hotspot (unless you pay more for the plan)
2. You buy Hotspot@Home and it doesn't give you use of T-Mobile's hotspots.

The Curve is going back within the 30 days; hopefully a better handset is released before then.]]>Oct 8th 2007 12:10PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/Oct 8th 2007 2:26PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/Oct 11th 2007 4:36PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/Oct 8th 2007 2:33PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/Oct 8th 2007 2:55PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/
The h@h is a great feature and I'm glad I got it. I jumped ship from VZW to TMO because of this h@h feature. It saves me minutes and money. I don't use it, but the TMO technician told me you also can use h@h for international calls without the additional expense. But long distance (in country) calls are free.

The 8320 is a great device and in IMHO is the best BB so far. this is the first camera phone I've owned, and it takes good pictures for being a phone/ pda/ router/ multi-media/ camera device.]]>Oct 8th 2007 3:17PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/Oct 8th 2007 3:49PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/
Also, my point about the speed was that the Curve is set to browse over BES if you use the stock t-zones browser right out of the box. That's why you're not getting blazing fast Wi-Fi speeds. In other words: This article (and many of you) are completely wrong.

@Michael Caputo: Fix your browser settings and get back to us. (Browser > Options > General > Default Browser)]]>Oct 8th 2007 4:09PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/Oct 8th 2007 5:49PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/Oct 8th 2007 6:53PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/Thanks.]]>Oct 11th 2007 11:53PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/
1. Wi-fi drains the battery FAST;
2. The UMA feature works with any wi-fi hotspot, but works best on a T-Mo hotspot, such as at Starbucks.
3. The UMA savings in minutes is probably not worth the $20 plan if you have any reasonable plan or talk mostly at night and on the weekends. (I have the $10 promotional plan that I'm canceling soon.)
4. The processor slows things down a lot. It's a problem if you do more than read email and make voice calls. Any surfing, document viewing or heavy MMS texting is slow slow slow.

Those are the negatives. But on the plus side, the phone looks and feels great. It has a great screen and keyboard. And the email app is classic first rate Blackberry. I upgraded from an 8700g. This was a good step up in my opinion for what I do, which is almost all PIM centric with a little MMS and texting thrown in. ]]>Oct 8th 2007 6:49PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/
reference:
http://www.blackberryforums.com/wifi-hotzone/97445-wifi-goes-through-blackberry-net.html
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Thanks for the reference viz wi-fi browser vs internet browser. That speeded things up a lot.]]>Oct 9th 2007 12:30AMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/Oct 9th 2007 2:09PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/
As for the HotSpot service for data at places like Starbucks, no. The data on there is based on the data account. If you're talking wifi for a computer data connection it's basically a separate account.

I can also confirm that you can set the WiFi to work for calls as well as data at free WiFi hot spots as well as other places where logins are necessary such as hotels or cafes.

Open the Manage Connections menu and turn off the mobile network. Then go to Set Up WiFi Network and set up the network you want to connect to. Open the browser, use the authentication screen when you open it up to log in. Once it connects and sets up with UMA connection, go back in and turn your mobile network on and you're ready to go.

Hope that helps those of you who use this phone.]]>Oct 9th 2007 3:46PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/how is call quality on home wifi, local starbucks, perhaps oversea's wifi?
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http://www.geardiary.com/2007/10/03/hands-on-with-t-mobiles-blackberry-8320/
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http://tnkgrl.wordpress.com/category/8320/
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On the speed of WiFi surfing, I would love to see a real test. The BoyGeniusReport test seems less than convincing. I experience all different kinds of speeds and noticed that the best speed seems to come when the browser is set to Blackberry Browser instead of WiFi Browser (to configure, open the browser and hit menu, options and General Properties). Perhaps this uses cached data from the BBerry site and thus speed the loading? I do notice that if you switch to the WiFi browser it automatically adds Java and style sheets. Does this add more data and thus lead to longer download times? And thus make EDGE look faster in the BGR test? I have also tried Opera for a browser and that does not seem to make much of a difference.

I am still in the trial period of this device so I would really like to sort the WiFi speed out.

Nevertheless, the UMA calling gives much better reception than any mobile telephone that I have ever had.]]>Oct 11th 2007 10:46AMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/
Also getting blazing speeds using the tmo router...Camera is better than the Samsung Sync or Motorola Razrs I've had by far.]]>Oct 11th 2007 2:28PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/
I can not find a single happy user aside from T-mobile puppets having good luck.

I have all the same problems as astevens has (aside from the threats, and I can't believe the messages I downloaded and listened to, he should call the FBI on t-mobile for the threats and the PUC for the service).

Again, this service does not work as stated, nobody can make a UMA to GSM handoff. If so, I would love to see it. At least I have 4 bars service but even on GSM, I get lots of dropped calls.

astevens: Like your comment on it not being 'theonlyphoneyouneed' like T-Mobile states on TV. I am on a Blackberry 8320 and still having the same UMA grief I had on my 6086 so even this Blackberry is not the only phone I need either. Call the cops on that guy, I can't believe the tone he and that Robin lady took with you or that Rachel saying her boss is right next to her telling her to hang up on you. Pure madness. I guess in Germany they let companies treat customers like that?

I guess we wait for sprint to finish testing their simular system (thanks Sprint for not being like T-Mobile and rushing to market with a severely flawed service.

Save your money, this is a waste of it.]]>Oct 11th 2007 4:38PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/
“Internet Browser” uses the BIS servers to compress and shrink images.

That is why EDGE is faster. Turn off browsing features, use a more mobile-friendly site, or wait for a faster CPU.]]>Oct 12th 2007 2:58PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/@ VoIP the call quality is excellent.

@ Sam how are you getting blazing speeds on the browser? Can you help by posting up the browser you are using and the configuration?

@allen 1: you need some technical help since I have had several hand-offs from GSM to UMA and it has not dropped a call yet.]]>Oct 15th 2007 8:12PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/Oct 17th 2007 7:19PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/http://mobile.engadget.com/2007/10/08/another-look-at-the-blackberry-8320-for-t-mobile/
I would like to get a TMo voice "my faves" plan: ($39 and up). That's my base monthly cost.

As far as I understand, if I want to be able to use e-mail and internet when *not* in a WiFi area, I also need a BB data plan ($20 and up).

But here's the thing...

I'm wondering if I need the TMo@home plan ($10 promotional and up) for the following: I work in sub-basement level and would like to be able to send and receive phone calls when there is no cell coverage.

I don't care about using WiFi for calls at home, and I don't care about EDGE vs WiFi in Starbucks for browsing or e-mail (since the data plan provides unlimited access and EDGE is fast enough for the amount I'd be surfing). Despite not caring about these two uses, do I still need to purchase the TMo@home add on in order to make calls underground?

Just curious, since every extra $10 starts adding up when you add taxes, surcharges, phone insurance etc into the bill.

Thanks.









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I live in Orlando and the handoff is seemless from wifi to GPRS and reverse. The battery life is not bad with moderate use, i charge it every other day.
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