Not even Adobe knows when Flash is coming to the iPhone
Wow, talk about setting new precedents in opacity and secrecy! The addition of Flash support has been rumored pretty much since before the iPhone was even released, and apparently, Apple isn't even talking to Flash owner Adobe -- much less Walt Mossberg -- about when (or if) it's going to happen. Writes company spokesman Ryan Stewart on his blog, "No one aside from Steve Jobs has any idea if or when it's coming." With the SDK right around the corner, we figure Flash is going to end up happening whether Apple provides it or not, but it'd be nice to see Cupertino give Adobe something to work with here, seeing how it's their standard and all. Remember, Apple, there's no "I" in "team."
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There's no "I" in "team" but there is "I" in iPhone.
You're a...dumbass.
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There is no "I" in Team but the is an "M" and an "E"
Seriously... That was the whole joke.
How come you guys are blaming Apple for there being no Flash support in the iPhone? Doesn't Adobe have a history of not cooperating with Apple?
This is disappointing when SkyFire browser support Flash
I have mixed feelings about flash support for the iPhone. I'd reeeealy want the ability to toggle it on and off without having to go to the settings menu.
I agree. Let the user decide. What's wrong with that? Most users would probably keep it on. This is strictly Apple's decision to not support Flash. Nobody asked the users. I want Flash supported whether it's useful or not. Let me decide for myself. It's just a plug-in for mobile Safari, right?
You suppose it has something to do with the fact that television networks offer many shows free using Flash 9 and that would cut into iTunes profit? Why spend $1.99 per episode when you can watch it free on NBC.com or ABC.com? Not to mention that it would cause AT&T network to crawl with people trying to watch HD version of Lost on their dialup speed Edge. I'd like to have Flash but I'm not holding my breath on it.
oh give the conspiracy crap a rest...
1) Although iPhone can natively decode H264 through quicktime, watching H264 through flash would probably kill the processor and not to mention the battery life.
2) Even if the iPhone could run H264 though Flash, HD resolution would not only kill the processor and battery life, but it's absolutely pointless on a half-VGA screen.
The probable reason why flash isn't on the iPhone yet is because Apple is likely 1) busy with more pressing needs, and 2) spending time optimizing flash for the iPhone.
why we need flash if webkit supports full ajax, as well as canvas?
no offense here, but poorly designed flash crap is a memory hog.
Ajax and canvas support interactive vector animation?...
1) yes POORLY designed Flash is a memory hog. Properly optimized Flash lite should run pretty well on the iPhone, considering devices with much inferior processors already run it. (Nokia N series and others)
2) You complain about Flash being a processor/memory hog, and then posit Canvas tag as a solution? HHAHAHAHHA
None of this means anything.
First of all, Ryan Stewart isn't a "company spokesman". He's a "Rich Internet Evangelist". That's all about Adobe's new AIR product - nothing to do with the iPhone or even Flash on mobile devices.
Second, if you read the WSJ article (or Ryan's blog), you'll see that the full quote from him was this:
"I assume someone at the high levels of Adobe knows what the status is but I don't and everyone I talk to doesn't. That's because only Apple really knows anything about it."
He contradicts himself: first he says that he assumes someone at a high level at Adobe knows about Flash on the iPhone, but then he says that only Apple knows about it. That doesn't make any sense.
My guess is that Ryan is regretting he ever made his blog post in the first place.
Well let's start with the fundamentals...
- Did Adobe give Apple access to the FLASH source code??? (Adobe 100% knows this!)
- Did Apple obtain one of the tightest, most secretive NDA's the world has ever known with 1-2 people within Adobe who are either lying to employees, or are just that good at keeping a secret???
Oh, and lets not be so foolish to think FLASH is going to be SDK'ed onto the iPhone/iPod Touch via Adobe, if Apple doesn't provide it themselves. You and I both know that if Apple doesn't want something in their playground, it ain't officially getting into their playground.
The game is "Apple Says", people!!! Not "e-Bay (Skype) Says" or "Adobe Says"!
It's "Apple Says"!!! Or if you wanna think of it another way... "Jobs-y Says"
"Jobs-y says, You ain't getting on my iPhone, less you do what I want!!!"
"You and I both know that if Apple doesn't want something in their playground, it ain't officially getting into their playground."
Ahem, you seem to have forgotten that a jailbreak has taken over the playground, and the Apple police sure have had trouble rounding 'em back up.
Not only that, but Apple has had a couple reasons for thinking twice about Flash support: for one, it's extremely processor-heavy, and that combined with Wi-Fi would seriously eat up the battery. Speaking of processor-heavy, the 400MHz processor would have some serious trouble displaying most animations without considerable lag, unless Apple finds a way to lessen up the load. Even 2GHz can't run all Flash animations and applications perfectly.
You think e-Bay and Adobe gonna support the jailbreak community, do ya???? (Nope! Apple would be so furious they'd start breaking Skype and Flash for MacOS X, just for revenege!)
So, when it comes to official 3rd party apps on the i-P/PT, jailbreak really shouldn't be considered...
Flash is no longer the thin, vector graphics of its youth. It would be petarded to support such expensive and wireless unfriendly content for any mobile.