Walt Mossberg promises 3G iPhone in 60 days
By Paul Miller 
posted Apr 5th 2008 2:08PM
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Gah, I just posted this to you, and it was already here all along.
Oh well... at least it's here for everyone to see.
Who the F is this Mossberg guy. Is he an Apple exec?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walt_Mossberg
I'm going to be dissapointed if the new iPhone doesen't have real GPS.
I hope the new version is smarter than the last one...
Version 1. was fairly lame IMO. I wanted to like it but it just was too limited.
I'm going to be dissapointed if the 3G Iphone has everything you folks want or claim to need as the reasons you have not already moved from your current POS device...that means just one thing... longer lines to buy the thing! Sign me up!
Do you really think S60 is POS?
Because, even on my limited Nokia N73 I feel like I've got a very wonderful phone. I'm all geared up and ready to plop down $500 on a Nokia N82 when I have the cash. Don't think I'll ever plop that kind of money down on something as limiting as an iPhone.
Of course it'll be restricted in some way. That's what the "iphone sdk" is supposedly for--to make up for some of the shortcomings. Apple releases firmware updates every month / other month in order to SLOWLY unlock features that were supposed to be there from the beginning--helps keep the momento going. Check your freedom at the door when you're using an iphone.
--James
Or jailbreak it and do what you want with it. Seriously, i bought my first iPhone yesterday after 3 years of championing windows mobile and a year of dissing the iphone. I got fed up with windows mobile freezing on me, so i figured i'd try an iphone (knowing how well the hacking is going), and i am seriously impressed. You jailbreak it and install "Installer.app" (the unlocker i used did this for me) and then you just open installer.app on the iphone and all the 3rd party software people have written is there to download, free of charge, right in your hands. It's really amazing. Apple may have made annoying locked-down software, but the hardware is amazing and the community has really made it awesome.
-Taylor
I get the iPhone is nice et al, but why use a device where Jobs makes you jump-rope all the time to his tune, and the next firmware flash could mean you can't jailbreak it anymore?
Why use something where you have to repeat yourself into futility? If doing it one time isn't good enough, it's not good enough.
iP2 within 60 days? Fact. ATT is giving huge sales spiffs for all remaining iP sales to clear out inventory.
What are you talking about? There are no sales spiffs being given by at&t to employees.
Where is the FCC filing? You gotta wonder if Apple is just doing an iPhone 1.2 by just adding the 3G antenae.
that would have to go thru the fcc
Exactly my point, where is the filing? This device would have to be filed with the FCC for testing, before it's even available for sale...yet there is none.
Let's get this into perspective though. This isn't just the first version of this phone, its the first time Apple has EVER done anything like a phone. Nokia, Moto, ect. They have all been making phones for years, and for the most part, that is their primary focus as a company. They way I look at it, its pretty good for a first phone, the fact that their first push into the market had the wow it did. They spent more time on Wow features rather than things every phone had. The next version will only get better. Come back in 3 or so years, when Apple has some good experience in the industry. I have an iPhone and agree with the fact it has a lot of missing features, I am not trying to defend its flaws, because they bug me too. I am just saying, give them a chance, they have been in the phone industry for a year. Compare that to MS being in the Portable Music Player industry for a few years. Apple is doing pretty well.
you make a good point.
but come on, no mms?
with what they released, they did a good job, yes.
but there are features that have no excuse for not being released.
3g, contacts search, and the like are all "nice to have".
you're right, they're not a must in a phone.
but mms and video capture are standard features that are available on $50 prepaid phones. certainly a $600 phone should have them.
it is their first phone, so they're still working on the app store, the sdk, and releasing updates. thats good n all. but a high-end big-money company like apple *should* be able to jump into a tech market like this with a solid product. its not like John Smith and Son Co made their first phone and we're gonna cut them some slack. even chinese wannabe rip-off phones have mms and video from brands we've never heard of.
if microsoft jumped into the portable gaming market and made a xbox-to-go handheld system, but it ran off discs and didn't have any kind of memory card slot (you had to start all over from level 1 every time u power back on), would you say "oops. oh well. its ms's first handheld xbox"
Finally!
I really wish the iPhone haters would just curl with with there Nokia's or WM devices and let us enjoy our devices. Really, do you Nokia and WM fanboys have nothing better to do than troll the Apple threads?
Man thats pretty easy to say yet you go to the page for the Sumsung Instinct which, at least on paper, seems to be an upgraded iPhone and you see lots of comments from people talking about oh its just a rip off or a copy and they should get original and blah blah...just saying that it seems to me that apple fanboys are in full effect too...
this is the only 1 osx phone in the world.
count how many iphone posts there are.
theres thousands of s60 phones in the world. count them.
count how many s60 posts there are.
theres thousands of wm phones in the world. count them.
count how many wm posts there are.
divide # of phones into # of posts per os.
wait, what's that? the apple os has hundreds of times more posts per phone than any other os?
ya, seems kinda hard to consider it "trolling" through the threads when you count the numbers, no?
to the contrary, its hard to avoid iphone posts.
not that im a hater. would just be nice if people from both sides of the fence thought before typing.
Maybe iPhone people are so vocal because they have to somehow justify their existence, when everybody else it's a given. Then again, it is called the religious minority too.
Maybe iPhone people are so vocal because they have to somehow justify their existence, when everybody else it's a given. Then again, it is called the religious minority too.
Of all fanboy types to come out and blast others for being fanboy to a certain company, mac heads have no room to talk.
Dissention/putting a company on blast is one of the ways we have technological advancement. Its good that people call apple out about the iphone. Thats the stuff that innovation is made of.
If you're going to bitch about Nokia and WM fanboys, go back to cupertino and drink more kool-aid.
what's good with 3G iPhone if there's no 3G service?
Agreed. AT&T's 3G coverage just isn't up to par for me and many others. I live, work, and play mostly in suburbia, which is sprawling rapidly in my area (DC), and is significantly out-pacing the HSPA rollout.
My AT&T contract is up in October, and if 3G coverage hasn't caught up by then, I will join the dark side of Verizon -- they are evil, but they roll out their evil, overpriced services more quickly and more broadly than anyone else in the U.S....
NuShrike: I think it's just the opposite. I think the haters are more vocal because they're devices DON'T get the coverage that youngcalhottie speaks against in her post. She's right. There are multitudes of S60 and WM devices floating around out there. And have been for years. However, it would seem that none of them are remarkable enough to generate the kind of buzz and interest that the iPhone has.
Reminds me again of the iPod. It was released against multitudes of other MP3 players, both cheaper and boasting more features. Also, most making barely a modest splash in the industry. Why? Because Apple, with a more expensive and less feature rich device, managed to catch the user experience. It clicked with people. Millions and millions of people. Apple has done the same with the iPhone. They have created a stable, elegant, and simple to use device that has WORLDWIDE appeal. WM has yet to get past the "stable" part, let alone "simple" and "elegant". All I know about S60 is that it's a decent platform but seems to have more appeal across the pond than here. The N95 looks nice, and received and continues to receive it's fair share of coverage here. But on that I read complaints like "weak GPS signal", "cheap feel" and "no qwerty" keyboard". Sorry but as nice as the N95 is, I think you can't consider yourself a very strong "smartphone" without a qwerty keyboard. Just my humble opinion though.
Do you really think that there isn't something to the iPhone, that coming up on nearly a year after it's release that it's still the most talked about cell phone on the market. And not just the US but world wide? Maybe for many people, sending an MMS just isn't end all be all of a cell phone. Especially when the iPhone so eloquently can email a photo with no MMS charges?? And it's not like it WON'T send an MMS. (Mine will now being jailbroken)
And I don't know what forums you are reading but I've seen plenty of coverage on this forum of S60 and WM device. But I ask you, just how exciting can you make the announcement of WM 6 to 6.1 update? So iPhone's are still waiting on MMS messaging. Aren't WM users still waiting on native TXT threading?
I think this and all similar forums are doing a great job at covering all of the latest mobile related gadgets. No one is making anyone here read the Apple threads let alone stop and respond to them. If you believe you must just because there are so many of them, maybe you should turn off the PC and go get some fresh air.
For a music centric device like an iPhone, ommitting A2DP is perhaps the most perplexing thing about the iPhone. I sure hope the next iPhone includes the ability to stereo bluetooth.
@bob
*claps* I couldn't have said it better myself.
@elgee02
Wow, that's the most reasonable thing I've ever heard you say. And for once it's actually true. If I had to guess I would assume it might have something to do with the current quality of A2DP, which, while good, is definitely not Bose quality or equivalent. Either that or Apple's just waiting to come out with their own solution. But it does make me bang my head against a wall when I think about it. iPod phone with built in bluetooth doesn't have the capability of wireless headphones built in? It IS a bit of a head scratcher.
Oh and one more thing. Another head scratcher:
The company that made fast, instant, and easy to use desktop search a reality with "Spotlight" then turns around and makes a cell phone and puts ZERO search capability in it. Although when sending an email, it DOES autocomplete the address as expected. I just wish it did the same with phone calls.
Having had a WinMo phone before my iPhone I really did like the SmartDial. It was my favorite feature (one of the only features that actually worked).
Anyone else noticed the stars aligning with the IRS releasing $600 in tax incentives at the same time as a new $600 3G iphone coming out? That's genius planning...getting the gov't to subsidize your phone