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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on iPhone 3G details: firmware 2.0 on June 27th, no OTA music downloads, AT&amp;T to fine non-activators, new spy-shots]]></title><link>http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/11/iphone-3g-details-firmware-2-0-on-june-27th-no-ota-music-downl/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/11/iphone-3g-details-firmware-2-0-on-june-27th-no-ota-music-downl/</guid><description><![CDATA[this sounds great!! should eliminate all you guys trying to cheat the system]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerardo]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 12th 2008 11:11AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on iPhone 3G details: firmware 2.0 on June 27th, no OTA music downloads, AT&amp;T to fine non-activators, new spy-shots]]></title><link>http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/11/iphone-3g-details-firmware-2-0-on-june-27th-no-ota-music-downl/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/11/iphone-3g-details-firmware-2-0-on-june-27th-no-ota-music-downl/</guid><description><![CDATA["the company will penalize customers who buy a phone but don't activate within 30 days"<br><br><br>Surley that can not be legal ?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Cirian75]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 11th 2008 9:49AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on iPhone 3G details: firmware 2.0 on June 27th, no OTA music downloads, AT&amp;T to fine non-activators, new spy-shots]]></title><link>http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/11/iphone-3g-details-firmware-2-0-on-june-27th-no-ota-music-downl/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/11/iphone-3g-details-firmware-2-0-on-june-27th-no-ota-music-downl/</guid><description><![CDATA[I think this qualifies as bundling.   I'm sure some state Attorney generals and consumer advocates will get in at&t's face about this.<br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Randy]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 11th 2008 10:47AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on iPhone 3G details: firmware 2.0 on June 27th, no OTA music downloads, AT&amp;T to fine non-activators, new spy-shots]]></title><link>http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/11/iphone-3g-details-firmware-2-0-on-june-27th-no-ota-music-downl/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/11/iphone-3g-details-firmware-2-0-on-june-27th-no-ota-music-downl/</guid><description><![CDATA[AT&T is NOT taking a hit on this phone.  It seems that they are subsidizing $200.  But they raised the data rate $10/mo and over a 2 year contract that is $240.  My math says that AT&T is now making more money on the iPhone, not taking a hit.  Also, from what I read they may have dropped the 200 text messages from the iPhone plan.  So if you want that back it is another $5/mo. So that means even more money for AT&T.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[blips]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 11th 2008 9:55AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on iPhone 3G details: firmware 2.0 on June 27th, no OTA music downloads, AT&amp;T to fine non-activators, new spy-shots]]></title><link>http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/11/iphone-3g-details-firmware-2-0-on-june-27th-no-ota-music-downl/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/11/iphone-3g-details-firmware-2-0-on-june-27th-no-ota-music-downl/</guid><description><![CDATA[Actually the data $10 increase to $30 for data is the price for all PDA/Smartphones with 3G so that is not how the phone's are getting subsidized.<br><br><a href="http://www.macrumors.com/2008/06/10/iphone-3g-hands-on-notes-and-questions/" rel="nofollow">http://www.macrumors.com/2008/06/10/iphone-3g-hands-on-notes-and-questions/</a><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[PJ]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 11th 2008 10:12AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on iPhone 3G details: firmware 2.0 on June 27th, no OTA music downloads, AT&amp;T to fine non-activators, new spy-shots]]></title><link>http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/11/iphone-3g-details-firmware-2-0-on-june-27th-no-ota-music-downl/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/11/iphone-3g-details-firmware-2-0-on-june-27th-no-ota-music-downl/</guid><description><![CDATA[As a former Consultant for AT&T for a# of years I can assure you AT&T is NOT taking any sort of hit on the subsidized price of the iPhone. Think for a minute about all the NEW features that got LEFT out of the iPhone 3G in order to bring it in at the pricepoint. A Cheap camera, a cheap housing, NO MMS, & NO A2DP. Here you can purchase other phones that have those features for LESS than the "subsidized" iPhone price. TRUST me when I tell you AT&T will be laughing all the way to the bank. Sounds to me that by putting the earnings drop speculation out there they they are trying to push the stock price down some in order to sell more shares. They've done it before, certainly would NOT put it past them to do it again.  The no OTA music downloads SUCKS profusely, you can get that feature on a B.S. carrier like Verizon or pay $15.00 monthly to zune & get unlimited music, but Apple which has the biggest music store on the planet cannot seem to get these moronic record companies to understand the goldmine they are sitting on? ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[FyreStarrter]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 11th 2008 10:51AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on iPhone 3G details: firmware 2.0 on June 27th, no OTA music downloads, AT&amp;T to fine non-activators, new spy-shots]]></title><link>http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/11/iphone-3g-details-firmware-2-0-on-june-27th-no-ota-music-downl/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/11/iphone-3g-details-firmware-2-0-on-june-27th-no-ota-music-downl/</guid><description><![CDATA[Re: OTA music downloads,<br><br>I think the reason why they've blocked OTA downloads is because the Music Companies want a larger cut of the iTMS sales for OTA.   Apple doesn't wanna concede; and I agree that they shouldn't.<br><br>What does it matter *how* the song is delivered to the purchaser?  A sale is a sale.   The music companies think that it's worth more for the convenience of doing it on the device instead of at a PC.<br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Randy]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 11th 2008 1:24PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on iPhone 3G details: firmware 2.0 on June 27th, no OTA music downloads, AT&amp;T to fine non-activators, new spy-shots]]></title><link>http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/11/iphone-3g-details-firmware-2-0-on-june-27th-no-ota-music-downl/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/11/iphone-3g-details-firmware-2-0-on-june-27th-no-ota-music-downl/</guid><description><![CDATA[the only hit AT$T is taking which will require 2 years to recover back from the red (im surprised it wont take longer) is the multi billions of dollars invested in getting their 3g networks up and running in major markets nation wide. i suspect this has nothing to do with the iphone directly, the bully tactics theyre employing with their plans for anyone who dares to actually want to buy a new 3g model will more than make up for whatever 'subsidy loss' they are claiming. <br><br>I as well would love to see AT$T get their pants sued off their asses on this deal by consumers as well. Ive never heard of being mandated to use a device within a certain time after purchase else face penalty charges before... at least not from a private company. ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[mockra]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 11th 2008 4:59PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on iPhone 3G details: firmware 2.0 on June 27th, no OTA music downloads, AT&amp;T to fine non-activators, new spy-shots]]></title><link>http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/11/iphone-3g-details-firmware-2-0-on-june-27th-no-ota-music-downl/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/11/iphone-3g-details-firmware-2-0-on-june-27th-no-ota-music-downl/</guid><description><![CDATA[Ummmm... So what's the price of the penalty?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[TJ]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 11th 2008 1:12PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on iPhone 3G details: firmware 2.0 on June 27th, no OTA music downloads, AT&amp;T to fine non-activators, new spy-shots]]></title><link>http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/11/iphone-3g-details-firmware-2-0-on-june-27th-no-ota-music-downl/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/11/iphone-3g-details-firmware-2-0-on-june-27th-no-ota-music-downl/</guid><description><![CDATA[At this point Apple and AT&T have only announced pricing for the phones on contract.  There has been no price guarantee for the phone outside of a contract has there?  <br><br>If that is the case, it stands to reason that the fine assessed will be the difference between the contract price for the phone and the non-contract price (which hasn't been announced) with a li'l sum' sum' thrown in for AT&T's trouble.  I would think that at some point AT&T is going to need to offer the phones without a contract to existing customers just like they do any other phone in their line up.  ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[xB Owner]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 11th 2008 2:55PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on iPhone 3G details: firmware 2.0 on June 27th, no OTA music downloads, AT&amp;T to fine non-activators, new spy-shots]]></title><link>http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/11/iphone-3g-details-firmware-2-0-on-june-27th-no-ota-music-downl/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/11/iphone-3g-details-firmware-2-0-on-june-27th-no-ota-music-downl/</guid><description><![CDATA[Looking forward to checking out what folks have cooked up! Anyone know if there's a good place to check out apps pre-app store (besides the one's from wwdc)? have only found this: <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=irXCMdRprfw" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=irXCMdRprfw</a>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[marcrich]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 11th 2008 3:29PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on iPhone 3G details: firmware 2.0 on June 27th, no OTA music downloads, AT&amp;T to fine non-activators, new spy-shots]]></title><link>http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/11/iphone-3g-details-firmware-2-0-on-june-27th-no-ota-music-downl/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/11/iphone-3g-details-firmware-2-0-on-june-27th-no-ota-music-downl/</guid><description><![CDATA[no OTA??? what a joke! why bother having 3g? actually, can the iphone download anything (music, programs, videos, etc.)???]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[slamEVIL]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 11th 2008 3:01PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on iPhone 3G details: firmware 2.0 on June 27th, no OTA music downloads, AT&amp;T to fine non-activators, new spy-shots]]></title><link>http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/11/iphone-3g-details-firmware-2-0-on-june-27th-no-ota-music-downl/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/11/iphone-3g-details-firmware-2-0-on-june-27th-no-ota-music-downl/</guid><description><![CDATA[I'm wondering the same thing. I'm very happy with using the Podcasting application on my N95, and can't see going back to iTunes and transferring the podcasts from my PC to the player.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 11th 2008 9:42PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on iPhone 3G details: firmware 2.0 on June 27th, no OTA music downloads, AT&amp;T to fine non-activators, new spy-shots]]></title><link>http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/11/iphone-3g-details-firmware-2-0-on-june-27th-no-ota-music-downl/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/11/iphone-3g-details-firmware-2-0-on-june-27th-no-ota-music-downl/</guid><description><![CDATA[Aren't you required to active in-store, or am I missing something here? Because then you couldn't really go 30 days without activating - that would have to be one long in-store buy.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[MTM]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Jun 12th 2008 12:58AM</pubDate></item></channel></rss>