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Out of an Available 5
OS design and function: 2.5
Hardware: .02
That womans hands: 0]]>Jun 25th 2008 10:05AMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/
Have you seen this handset in person? I have and I can tell you that it is a great looking device.

Besides, when the screen is not lit, the display is mirror like, so maybe when you say it is a butt-ugly device, it is your reflection that you truly see and not the device.]]>Jun 25th 2008 1:17PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/
Hey everyone, let’s give it up for JunkJugget, it took him 3 paragraphs, but he finally got to the punch line; me being ugly.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought we were entitled to our own opinion (at least in America). Especially my self who actually owns close to a dozen smart phones totaling about $7k, I’d have to say I at least know a little about this topic.

To respond to your post:
The device, to me, is aesthetically unappealing. It looks like it wants to be a Smartphone, but does not want to be compared to one. Sort of like me dressing up like a cop, waiting for a crime to be committed, then getting mad at the victim for running up to me.

Well, in detail, based on the currently released specs the device is fairly thick, and based on a recent Engadget article the US version will be .5” thicker? WTF!!! lol. And I guess a 3” display is ok, being that it DOESN’T really have a full featured web browser, so who cares, right….

When you look at the Samsung Omnia, or the iPhone 3G the device mentioned above can be seen as a total waste of money. Oops I can’t compare the two, it’s not a smart phone, I forgot. Well compared to Moto RZR this device is great!! Only because the RZR does not have a mirror-like reflective display. lol I’d prefer to use the forward facing camera on the Omnia anyway.
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Any chance you guys can show us the browser?
]]>Jun 25th 2008 10:38AMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/Jun 26th 2008 1:51AMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/Jun 25th 2008 9:37PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/I just ordered the Dare and from all the positive reviews I think I will be happy.

Good Luck]]>Jul 1st 2008 12:54PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/Jun 25th 2008 11:06AMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/Jun 25th 2008 11:30AMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/
If you go check out Giz's video review you'll see that he just used his thumbs and he gets around just fine.]]>Jun 25th 2008 2:33PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/Other than that, you can sync outlook calender and contacts up with the phone and it also does have corp email and wireless sync. It just all depends on what you want to pay for. All in all this is a great phone that can do pretty much anything you're looking into doing. It's only downfall really is not being able to open up office documents ofcourse. Other than that, you couldn't ask for more. ]]>Jun 25th 2008 12:56PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95Ky6nwR8ms&feature=related
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Kid]]>Jul 7th 2008 4:18PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/Jul 6th 2008 6:55PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/
First of all, that screen is tiny, and is only 320x240, very low resolution compared to the iPhone/Instinct. Secondly, that "handwriting recognition" is on the Instinct too, and unlike the LG, you can actually write entire words given that the writing area is huge compared to the little square box of the LG. Thirdly, that tiny screen can only make for a frustrating experience typing. Please tell me I'm wrong. Fourthly, the Instinct has it's software UI fully integrated into the Telenav application. Is VZNav?

This phone is more in line with the Samsung Armani phone if you ask me, certainly not the Instinct or iPhone. It's smaller, with a much smaller and lower resolution display.]]>Jun 25th 2008 2:27PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/compare_advresults.php?phones%5B0%5D=2580&phones%5B1%5D=2669

Anyway, I'm thinking that you are a little bit of a Sprint/Samsung fanboy spewing misinformation, rather than an informed poster.]]>Jun 25th 2008 4:10PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/Jun 25th 2008 9:44PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/Jul 3rd 2008 1:30PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/Jun 25th 2008 7:26PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/Jun 25th 2008 7:03PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/Jun 25th 2008 7:30PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/Jun 26th 2008 9:36AMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/Jun 26th 2008 9:51AMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/Jun 26th 2008 1:46PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/Jun 26th 2008 2:27PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/Jun 30th 2008 1:39PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/
It has touch calibration and once set seems to work fine with finger or thumb tips.

Texting is a little harder than a qwerty phone (ie the enV), but again once you are used to it it works fine.

The second menu is one that can be modified to have your favorite shortcuts on it.

Web browsing can be viewed in full HTML but some pages load very slow as can be expected.

Again once you get used to the phone navigating and scrolling are easy.

The only negatige for me is the lack of a stylus.]]>Jul 1st 2008 10:33AMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/
Specifically, How do I sync my contacts with outlook? I have 2003. Running windows XP.]]>Jul 3rd 2008 7:08PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/
Specifically, How do I sync my contacts with outlook? I have 2003.
Running windows XP.
]]>Jul 3rd 2008 7:11PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/
To qualify my opinions, I am a Client/Server programmer (I write code for Enterprise portals) - so I have lots of experience with my own personal phones/devices (5 smartphones in the last 3 years) and work with other peoples phones/devices for testing purposes.

So now, on to the good stuff.

+ Full HTML/Optimized/Text browser is nice, good for viewing various sites - as sites become more intelligent and detect device capabilities, this shouldn't be as necessary

- Limited Javascript capabilities - using somewhere like ECMA script 1.2 - similar to WindowsMobile 5/6 devices and iPhone

+ Haptic feedback (the vibrating when you touch stuff) with options for setting how much feedback it gives lets you 'almost' feel like you are really touching something other than a flat screen (a major downside to onscreen keyboards - not just on mobile devices, but ELO Touchscreens as well)

+- Keyboard with corrective positioning (I forget the technical term) similar to that of the HTC Touch and iPhone, lets you touch a letter, slide your finger and select adjoining letter if target is off (I almost find it annoying with my larger fingers - I'm 6'1")

+ Flicking - mentioned abouve, it DOES have 'flick' capabilities for menus (horiz and vert) as well as panning around full html browser pages

- No scroll indicator to let you know that there is more menu items (just found that from the main menu screen you can flick side to side to change the screen - akin to HTC Cube)

- In some OTA applications (Formerly Get It Now apps) there is a large scrollbar for finger navigation - diverges from the device's interface - this is a software developer issue though as they develop for a broad range of devices/capabilities

+ Shortcut menu - can customize as well as drag to 'desktop'

+ VZNavigator/GPS - worked well first shot, found my way back home from the ice cream shop last night - also played with my wife's new LG Venus and compared user experience between the devices since touch is handled differently

+ Supported Bluetooth profiles - love the A2DP with my new MotoRokr S9 headphones - FINALLY wireless headphones for the gym and that fit under my ski helmet!

Well that's all for now - I may post more as I find myself liking/disliking/disagreeing with UI or design. Oh yeah, physical design on this is not quite 'butt-ugly' but rather pretty smooth and good looking - but then again, not everyone loves visual design.

On the design:
+ Semi-rubbery grip on underside and lower half of phone - keeps it in my hand

- Shiny silver sides - you don't need to be a CSI to lift my prints

- Weird dividing line on the lower part of the phone - looks like a MotoRazr V3 where is closes, almost getting me to try and pry it open, before I realized there is nothing to flip open.

+ Buttons well placed, and I am even a lefty - and I can still operate with one hand

Ok, really that's all for now - please, if anyone can chime in with comments that may steer users away or draw them closer to this device, then I would welcome it - personal preference does play a big part of our reactions to new devices/technology - but it is good when you have a wide array of experiences to give an almost objective opinion.

~Jeremy
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Can someone answer Bryan's question above? Can you sync it to Outlook to get contacts? If so, how? Do you need software to do it?

Thanks]]>Jul 10th 2008 4:26PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/
It's $10 to get the software - hopefully not each month as I think it is...]]>Jul 11th 2008 2:53PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/
]]>Jul 17th 2008 12:37AMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/Jul 15th 2008 1:55PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://bitpim.org). Check out the help section for details. Make sure you use the latest version (1.06) and use the LG VX-9100 profile. (The VX-9700 / LG Dare profile is currently not detected/supported automatically.)]]>Jul 22nd 2008 2:02PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/Jul 26th 2008 3:09PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/Jul 29th 2008 1:09AMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/Dividing line at bottom of phone in back is the battery door.

Michelle, you need to download the bitpim test, release 1.0.6.20080724 - LG Dare is actually listed too (bitpim found it) but Env2/VX9100 worked better for transferring ringtones/wallpaper.

Andrew, when I first went to VZW, salesperson said I needed to upgrade to the $80 data plan (I have the $35 300 minute and $15 MW2.0/VCAST). When I went back 2 weeks later, different salesperson said I didn't, just had to change from America's Choice to National - cost was same, just different name.]]>Jul 27th 2008 1:39AMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/]]>Aug 6th 2008 12:02PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/well most reviewrs give this phone the pros and cons
but overall all give it a good review. ok i agree with you on the iphone
its better at some things .is the iphone overall a better phone yes
is the dare a good phone yes. remember iphone 7o- to 75$ a month not
including a mintute plan.safari is a great browser but overall
the dare browser is good not grat but good. as far as speed lg dare is faster with evdo rev a. camera is very good with good light far a phone the beast camera in a phone till date i own a canon 20d and a nikon d40
so i know quite a bit about digital slr. so as far as a caMERA BEST ON A PHONE IF NOT ON PAR WITH THE BEST AND BUY THE WAY
GOT A LOT OF COMPLAMENTS ON PHONES LOOKS. NOW DO I THINK THE I PHONE LOOK BETTER YES I DO .BUT I THING LG DARE LOOK GOOD AND 15 A MONTH FOR WEB BROWSING ISNT BAD. COMPARED TO THE IPONES FORCED FEE]]>Aug 11th 2008 3:21AMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/
On top of all of that for a limited time you get a free 8GB SANDISK MICROSD CARD WITH 2 DIFFERENT ADAPTORS.

On top of that you get verizons New Every Two service which means in 2 years you'll get a check for $100 towards your next phone purchase...that's $100 off your next generation phone no matter how much it costs. Let's do the math...The Dare costs $249 but with $50 instant rebate it's $199. For anyone using their New Every Two for the dare would only pay $100 for the phone. Talk about savings compared to the iphone.

Finally, Only Verizon (certainly not AT&T) offers warranty coverage. For just $5 a month your phone is replaced with a brand new one if it is lost or stolen no questions asked. So go on and take it on that rollercoaster. Also, included in that $5 your phone will be repaired at anytime if it breaks, or malfunctions and if they can't fix it you'll get a brand new one.
--Not a lot of people know this but Verizon was originally suppose to contact with Apple for the iPhone but it is because Apple refused to offer a warranty that Verizon declined. AT&T ofcourse jumped on it- why would they ever care about their customers? *apple shakes AT&T's hand* And thus your overpriced, overrated, under-protected iphone 3G is here!

Enjoy paying at least $110 a month on your iphone when you add the TALK & DATA unlimited together unlike verizon where it's bundled under their premium plan. Not to mention paying the extra $20 for unlimited text messages with AT&T...once again included with Verizon. Oh and just as AT&T and Apple plan- don't lose your have your phone accidentally drop. Heaven forbid it's stolen - otherwise you'll be back in the line ordering your brand new 2nd iPhone (because it's worth it ;)

Well, there's some facts. Whichevre phone plan you choose there are awesome phones to choose from. If you like AT&T then get the iphone is you can afford it. If you like verizon then get the Dare if you can afford it. They are both the same price, but it's the cost of the plan that will get you in the long run. Did i mention Verizon has superior coverage compared to AT&T. Sadly, a friend of mine can only get coverage with his iphone in his mom's bedroom. *grabs violin*]]>Aug 23rd 2008 2:19PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/Aug 28th 2008 4:20PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/Sep 14th 2008 4:59PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/Sep 16th 2008 11:23AMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/06/25/lg-dare-hands-on/Sep 16th 2008 8:20PM