my guess is it'll be required within the system. I finally got one of the reps who came to my office to admit that IT makes restrictions within the system, i.e., why I'm forced to pay $45 for data on my 6700 when someone with a 6800 pays $30.
chances are, all their PPC's are going to be that way from now on.... and let's be honest, it's verizon, they're just going to laugh at you if you threaten to leave.
@ bit: yes, a data plan will be required for ALL pda/smartphones starting Nov 16. this will be no exception. the only exception is if you have a pda/smartphone NOW and don't have a data plan... kind of a "grandfathered in" scenario. the reason for this is because these devices are just as I've said twice now - pda/smartphones. people get them because they're "cute" or "I just like xxx function". well, guess what?! they are designed as a pda FIRST, and the phone second. if you want a fancy phone, then get a Dare or Voyager or something like that which doesn't REQUIRE a data plan. chances are, if you have a pda device, then you will, at some point, either use email or internet. and what happens when you do that without a data plan??? you get charged, get pissed, and call in.
@ gino: actually, it has nothing to do with IT, per se. it's the way that the programming is set in the system based on the capabilities of the phone. why does the Centro get the cheaper plan but the 700/755p don't? aren't they essentially the same OS? what about Moto Q's, but not the xv6800 - aren't they Windows Mobile? the answer to just those 2 questions is YES... but maybe they just don't have the same capability as the others. it's a difficult question to answer, to be sure, and having a rep say "oh, our IT department determines which you can and can't" is just plain ludicrous and your statement about it is misleading.
-- by the way, when was the last time ANYBODY called a company to stop services and got laughed at? Verizon wouldn't either. you don't become the #2 highest customer base in domestic cellular (soon to be #1 again with Alltel going thru) because you tell people "we've got America's most reliable and largest 3g network. we set the rules and you just have to deal with it."
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not to bad, will this also be locked into that data plan requirement?
is there any way to get out of that? pressure them that you will leave Verizon maybe?
my guess is it'll be required within the system. I finally got one of the reps who came to my office to admit that IT makes restrictions within the system, i.e., why I'm forced to pay $45 for data on my 6700 when someone with a 6800 pays $30.
chances are, all their PPC's are going to be that way from now on.... and let's be honest, it's verizon, they're just going to laugh at you if you threaten to leave.
@ bit: yes, a data plan will be required for ALL pda/smartphones starting Nov 16. this will be no exception. the only exception is if you have a pda/smartphone NOW and don't have a data plan... kind of a "grandfathered in" scenario. the reason for this is because these devices are just as I've said twice now - pda/smartphones. people get them because they're "cute" or "I just like xxx function". well, guess what?! they are designed as a pda FIRST, and the phone second. if you want a fancy phone, then get a Dare or Voyager or something like that which doesn't REQUIRE a data plan. chances are, if you have a pda device, then you will, at some point, either use email or internet. and what happens when you do that without a data plan??? you get charged, get pissed, and call in.
@ gino: actually, it has nothing to do with IT, per se. it's the way that the programming is set in the system based on the capabilities of the phone. why does the Centro get the cheaper plan but the 700/755p don't? aren't they essentially the same OS? what about Moto Q's, but not the xv6800 - aren't they Windows Mobile? the answer to just those 2 questions is YES... but maybe they just don't have the same capability as the others. it's a difficult question to answer, to be sure, and having a rep say "oh, our IT department determines which you can and can't" is just plain ludicrous and your statement about it is misleading.
-- by the way, when was the last time ANYBODY called a company to stop services and got laughed at? Verizon wouldn't either. you don't become the #2 highest customer base in domestic cellular (soon to be #1 again with Alltel going thru) because you tell people "we've got America's most reliable and largest 3g network. we set the rules and you just have to deal with it."