http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/ Engadget Mobile Comments for Motorola Krave ZN4 hands-on http://mobile.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://mobile.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/Nov 24th 2008 10:22AMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/Nov 24th 2008 10:34AMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/Nov 24th 2008 1:00PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/
It's important to note that Verizon isn't part of the OHA, so I really wasn't expecting to find a "MotoDroid" device on their network. Of the US carriers, only T-Mobile (obviously) and Sprint-Nextel have signed on, but I believe Engadget reported that at&t is "looking into the matter" or something of similarly equivocal nature.

For the record, I hate VZW's custom interface. I like my phone to be somewhat unique and besides, that thing is a feature-castrator! Bluetooth sharing, anyone?]]>Nov 24th 2008 1:40PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/Nov 24th 2008 1:48PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/This design is nice but if you can't type through the flip screen, its very uncomfortable.

I played with the Krave and liked alot of things about it, but the software's biggest flaw in my opinion was failing to have inertial scroll like the iPhone does. No other touch phone gets scrolling right like iphone does.

I do like the Krave's tactile keyboard response and its looks.
]]>Nov 24th 2008 2:15PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/
Let me tell you, Moto's standard OS is decent (barely), but the built-in applications suck...badly. I bought an unlocked KRZR K1 from Motorola last year. Instead of storing text messages on either the internal memory or my 2GB microSD card, it stores them on my SIM card, which limits me to ~30 messages. Oh, but MMS messages appear to be stored internally (or somewhere not SIM-related). WTF?

The Java-based music app is alright, but slow to launch. Since it's separate from the main OS, it acts like a game -- that is to say, it needs focus to actually play music. Sure, I could use the OS "Sound Player" to compose messages and listen to music simultaneously, but that thing can be only described as "janky, at best." And don't get me started on that screwy non-predictive predictive T9 which "appears" to learn and then later appears to _forget_ at random intervals!

Yeah, I overlooked its shortcomings in the beginning, but I'm totally fed up with it now. Looking forward to getting the Samsung Eternity (a867), hopefully this Friday.]]>Nov 24th 2008 2:41PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/Nov 24th 2008 8:03PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/
imo it's just not worth it to have a touch screen if the software isn't robust enough to utilize it well. and honestly, software isn't goign to get there on a perhandset base (excep. iphone). that's why i think there is so much value in winmo, android and other generic interfaces.

and verizon's os pisses me off. if i leave when my contract expires. that's why.]]>Nov 25th 2008 3:46AMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/Nov 24th 2008 11:26AMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/Nov 24th 2008 11:30AMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/Nov 24th 2008 11:34AMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/Nov 28th 2008 6:42PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/Nov 24th 2008 11:32AMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/
Motorola needs to build a phone that consumer wants, not build something they think they'll like. That's the wrong direction to go in this high competitive handheld market especially the touch screen mobile market.

Talk a look at http://www.Motorola-Krave.com I seriously don't know why this guy even bother to start a forum for this crappy phone..

Lid? the technology is pretty cool and stuff, but why would you need a lid when you can do something like the iphone???

I am seeing more motorola trouble down the road, if they don't change their designer team... get someone from Apple designer team or something.. gosh.]]>Nov 24th 2008 11:59AMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/
So you are implying we should memorize all of the phones on all of the carriers? Well go on them, name all of the ones on T-Mobile for me..]]>Nov 24th 2008 1:45PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/Nov 24th 2008 12:55PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/Nov 24th 2008 1:15PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/Nov 24th 2008 6:58PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/

I mean when i use my iphone i wrap both hands around it when it is in landscape, then use both thumbs to hit the letters.

I am NOT an iphone fanboy. I just cant see how the lid will work, it seems to limit the ways you can hold on to the device w/ your left hand.]]>Nov 24th 2008 1:21PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/Nov 24th 2008 1:33PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/Nov 24th 2008 1:55PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/Nov 24th 2008 2:13PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/Nov 24th 2008 2:25PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/Oh, and there isn't any speed dial settings on the Krave either...]]>Nov 24th 2008 2:42PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/Dec 7th 2008 5:43AMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/
Let me tell you, Moto's standard OS is decent (barely), but the built-in applications suck...badly. I bought an unlocked KRZR K1 from Motorola last year. Instead of storing text messages on either the internal memory or my 2GB microSD card, it stores them on my SIM card, which limits me to ~30 messages. Oh, but MMS messages appear to be stored internally (or somewhere not SIM-related). WTF?

The Java-based music app is alright, but slow to launch. Since it's separate from the main OS, it acts like a game -- that is to say, it needs focus to actually play music. Sure, I could use the OS "Sound Player" to compose messages and listen to music simultaneously, but that thing can be only described as "janky, at best." And don't get me started on that screwy non-predictive predictive T9 which "appears" to learn and then later appears to _forget_ at random intervals!

Yeah, I overlooked its shortcomings in the beginning, but I'm totally fed up with it now. Looking forward to getting the Samsung Eternity (a867), hopefully this Friday.]]>Nov 24th 2008 2:40PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/
(Also, even on my old V3, you could switch the phonebook between the SIM and the Phone memory.. I know the KRZR can do it too, unless your operator decreed that you may not. But the phone sure CAN)]]>Nov 24th 2008 5:07PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/
Anyways, @Asten, yeah, my brother and sister each have an at&t-branded V3xx. I like that my unlocked phone doesn't limit the size of files that can be used for ringtones, but you're right to say that the music player on that phone is MUCH, much better. To be honest, I'd completely forgotten about it.

Also, it's not the phonebook contacts that are storing on my SIM, it's the incoming SMS (text) messages. What's most annoying about this is that unlike the phonebook app, there is no option to change the storage location, effectively forcing me to manually delete every nonessential incoming message. (But seriously, how many texts really _need_ to be kept?)]]>Nov 25th 2008 12:26AMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/Nov 24th 2008 2:51PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/Oh Engadget, don't you know? All cell phones really are nothing to sneeze at. :-)]]>Nov 24th 2008 3:03PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/
" Beam me up Scotty!"

]]>Nov 24th 2008 3:39PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/
Annyyway...this might help

http://blog.pcnews.ro/2008/02/14/ee-exclusive-star-trek-communicator/]]>Nov 24th 2008 3:44PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/Nov 24th 2008 3:52PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/Nov 24th 2008 4:06PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/
But hey, I believe in motorola, as other commenteers said, puts a decent OS on this and it's gonna be awesome, even the linux of the original ming.]]>Nov 24th 2008 4:21PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/Nov 24th 2008 6:49PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/Nov 28th 2008 3:08PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/
In short,is it a cool looking phone? yes. If you prefer style over function and want your friends to say "cool phone" this is a great purchase, just don't let anyone touch your phone....EVER.

]]>Nov 24th 2008 8:00PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/Nov 29th 2008 10:24PMhttp://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/http://mobile.engadget.com/2008/11/24/motorola-krave-zn4-hands-on/I mean if you can't browse engadget what shoud you use a phone for? Phoning?
Naah, my Omnia is still the best option (by far), unless the HTC 4G gets outta the Russian steppes and makes it to my pocket.

HTC HD? Tried. Sucks
HTC pro? Owned. Sucks
Storm? ..Mmmm.. sucks.
iPhone? Don't get me started. Sucks
And come to think of it you suck too.
Yea, you do.
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