@ Chris, Is a double click so annoying as to give up so much functionality? The iPhone can single click because it lacks anything close to the amount of functionality of the S60-powered 5800 XM. I promise the iPhone will either add double clicking, long press, or become known as the do-less device once the mobile computing platforms like Android and Open Symbian mature. You really need more than a button and touchscreen to provide access to so many functions, and its still fast and easy to navigate between apps and menus. I find the iPhone fast for basic tasks, but slow for text entry, and task launching. And without multitasking, it can't be a proper laptop replacement. S60 is intended as a laptop alternative, and does so with grace.
Multitouch is ok, but one handed operation is better for productivity, which is a smartphone's first intended purpose. Were I an iPhone user, a lack of multitasking would be more glaring than the 5800's lack of multitouch. The 5800 does the same things and more with a different input method. You can still zoom in on images, just with one hand. ;)
As for thickness, I think the iPhone, at 12.3mm, and the 5800 XM, at 15.5mm, are comparable in size. The 5800's sides are flatter, compared to the tapered iPhone edges that give it an appearance of an even thinner profile than it actually has. It's just 3mm thicker, and that was so you could have a high quality camera with flash, professional grade Carl Zeiss optics, DVD quality video capture, and the best loudspeakers on the market. I call that a more than fair trade!
@ Ispiratica, Its not selling in North America yet except gray market. Just some Eastern European and Asian countries officially have it. I believe Austrailia has it too. It was priced high in Russia only. Everywhere else, its been around $339, or $449 with the all-you-can-eat Comes With Music download service, both SIM free prices. YOU COULD BUY TWO OF THESE FOR THE PRICE OF AN IPHONE 3G!! This device could come under $99 on contract in America if at&t or T-MobileUSA subsidized it, or $339 unlocked!
@ Pit, The N96 nor N85 can match the power of my N95 8gb. Why do you think the latest port of Quake III Arena won't run on either of those devices, but smokes on the N95 8gb, N95 NAM, N82, and E90? Because those 4 devices have better processors and dedicated GPU's. And the Touch HD will be ok for media consumption, but suck for media creation, both fortes of the N95 8gb.
Web navigation is NOT better on an iPhone. It doesn't show any Flash content, so most of the web is missing or static. The 5800 has a full desktop web browser, and does all processing on the device. You can watch YouTube videos OR MANY OTHERS ON OTHER SITES, plus use web based apps like image and video uploaders on MySpace, etc. The iPhone browser is an Opera Mini clone with added support for an external video player, only Opera Mini on the 5800 opens RealPlayer, and the iPhone has a custom app. That's it! The default browser is yards ahead of anything OEM out there.
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@ Chris,
Is a double click so annoying as to give up so much functionality? The iPhone can single click because it lacks anything close to the amount of functionality of the S60-powered 5800 XM. I promise the iPhone will either add double clicking, long press, or become known as the do-less device once the mobile computing platforms like Android and Open Symbian mature. You really need more than a button and touchscreen to provide access to so many functions, and its still fast and easy to navigate between apps and menus. I find the iPhone fast for basic tasks, but slow for text entry, and task launching. And without multitasking, it can't be a proper laptop replacement. S60 is intended as a laptop alternative, and does so with grace.
Multitouch is ok, but one handed operation is better for productivity, which is a smartphone's first intended purpose. Were I an iPhone user, a lack of multitasking would be more glaring than the 5800's lack of multitouch. The 5800 does the same things and more with a different input method. You can still zoom in on images, just with one hand. ;)
As for thickness, I think the iPhone, at 12.3mm, and the 5800 XM, at 15.5mm, are comparable in size. The 5800's sides are flatter, compared to the tapered iPhone edges that give it an appearance of an even thinner profile than it actually has. It's just 3mm thicker, and that was so you could have a high quality camera with flash, professional grade Carl Zeiss optics, DVD quality video capture, and the best loudspeakers on the market. I call that a more than fair trade!
@ Ispiratica,
Its not selling in North America yet except gray market. Just some Eastern European and Asian countries officially have it. I believe Austrailia has it too. It was priced high in Russia only. Everywhere else, its been around $339, or $449 with the all-you-can-eat Comes With Music download service, both SIM free prices. YOU COULD BUY TWO OF THESE FOR THE PRICE OF AN IPHONE 3G!! This device could come under $99 on contract in America if at&t or T-MobileUSA subsidized it, or $339 unlocked!
@ Pit,
The N96 nor N85 can match the power of my N95 8gb. Why do you think the latest port of Quake III Arena won't run on either of those devices, but smokes on the N95 8gb, N95 NAM, N82, and E90? Because those 4 devices have better processors and dedicated GPU's. And the Touch HD will be ok for media consumption, but suck for media creation, both fortes of the N95 8gb.
Web navigation is NOT better on an iPhone. It doesn't show any Flash content, so most of the web is missing or static. The 5800 has a full desktop web browser, and does all processing on the device. You can watch YouTube videos OR MANY OTHERS ON OTHER SITES, plus use web based apps like image and video uploaders on MySpace, etc. The iPhone browser is an Opera Mini clone with added support for an external video player, only Opera Mini on the 5800 opens RealPlayer, and the iPhone has a custom app. That's it! The default browser is yards ahead of anything OEM out there.