Another Pre hands-on video with Palm's VP of design
By Nilay Patel 
posted Jan 30th 2009 11:32AM
posted Jan 30th 2009 11:32AM
posted Jan 30th 2009 11:32AM
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Nice Alpha code, Palm ... but ...
Seriously, Palm? Reaching back 2 years and making the bold attempt at reaching the standards of the N95?
Talking up GECKO-feet and dialpad-within-the-QWERTY? Seriously, Palm?
This Pre requires the same TWO-handed controls to navigate that WinMo requires (for those actually paying attention to the video).
Seriously, Palm?
i disagree
i think this is exactly what palm needed
its an excellent new user experience while still staying true to the overall "palm feel"
it looks like both something palm fans will love and something that will attract new users
as much as i love nokia, the synergy and connectivity to existing web services seems much more useful than something like ovi
(i dont know a single person other than myself irl who has ovi or has even heard of it)
its all about being able to connect to your already existing online world and it seems like palm nailed that
the only drawback for me, as im always repeating, is that i hate qwerty on phones
i cant stand those stupid little buttons and looking down at the pad to type
if there were a Keypad/T9 version of this i would be switching to it the day it came out
but i doubt that will ever happen
and ill therefore probably never own a palm
but as i heard at the end of the video, "Palm's back"
and congrats to them
ALL multitouch requires two hands, genius, even on the iPhone.
Not 2-handed control which requires the combo of keyboard + screen taps/gestures as Palm's man clearly shows (again, for those paying attention).
Erm, almost everything he showed on the touch screen (except pinch zoom which can be circumvented with the double-tap to CSS snap, zoom back out, etc) can be done with just a thumb. Even as far as the keyboard goes, it'll probably always be faster to use both hands, but because of the short reach of portrait keypads you can do short entry with one hand as well. I use a landscape slider now and I'm looking forward to trying out a portrait slider even if the buttons are smaller.
But since you pointed it out, it strikes me that when you're demonstrating a product like this, constantly having your thumb sticking up in front of the screen takes away from watching the behavior of the GUI (reponsivences, etc). So maybe he was using two hands so he could quickly stick out a long finger, tap, and be out of the way of the screen's view. This IS a presentation after all. Or maybe that's just how Stallman prefers it. But last time I checked any tap entry only requires one point which can be done with a thumb.
Now go troll elsewhere.
Perhaps and Maybe's? From the Guru of Design? Nice theory, indeed!
Making it personal is much more telling about you than me, Major Gripweed.
this was posted on Crackberry.com like a month ago, DURING CES.
nice slowness engadget
The "uh" and "uhs" are KILLING this review for me. From someone who's in marketing, I would expect a more listenable review. The phone looks great, but I can't get past all the speaker's "uh"s.
Ugh. ;)
thanks man. i read your comment before i watched the video so all i could hear was the "uh" over and over again lol. that was excruciating, really terrible for a head of marketing.
^The Peter Principle in _full_ effect.
ya, uh... the uh, "uhs," were uh, killing me too
but it was cool to watch still
I'm all drooly
He is not the head of marketing. I thought he did a stellar job covering its features anyway, way better than those other idiots I've seen so far who did nothing beyond read the product brochure. I would love to see any of you give a presentation even as remotely thorough.
Anyways, I can hear the stampede of lawyers coming from Apple. It will be lulz. "Welcome competition" my ass. The faggotry that is Apple will not give in on this one.
Very cool device! Although I don't know what Engadget means by it never hiccups or slowsdown, there were definitely a few times in there where it did both.
Sorry to say this.. but Palm is on life support and copycat vaporware ain't going to do the trick thru
this economy.
I agree with callisto3.
I was like wow...
Stop with the "uhs...."
He "uhhh-ed" when he talked about the hardware, and I was like. Yeah that's the camera..
It really killed the review for me too, it made everything choppy.
But regardless, I think this phone looks amazing.
The man is the VP of design, he's doesn't get paid to do presentations.
^Wrong! Skillman is an ancient corporate lugnut holdover from Handspring as the Palm Director of New Product Development, and _now_ VP of Design. In that role, he has made a career of presenting. Only problem is that he has always presented his abacus-equivalent product concepts to his koolade-swilling dopers, but which have left a rancorous taste in consumers' mouths and left enterprise needs high and dry. Get out into the brave, brutal world where real _original_ creativity is born and you may not need to usurp another corps' IP, Petey. Peter Principle Personified!