HTC Hero's UK launch pushed back to July 24th or later?

[Thanks, Drew T. and Sam P.]
Read -- Devicewire tweet
Read -- Amazon UK

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Amazon has had that date for a while now.
I got a message from Orange to say that it will be out within a week but didn't give a date as it is still in testing.
I think it will be coming out on contract before sim only.
Heya,
When did you get that message from Orange, I'm on Orange (UK) too .. just looking forward to this phone more than I did my Viewty, which I still have 20 or so months later
damn. crappy carriers ruin good phones. this phone should have been with o2 or t-mobile at the very least. it will live no where near its potential with that crappy orange carrier.
Engadget, you may want to have another look at Amazon. It now has a shipping date of August 15, 2009. :(
If it keeps getting put off i'll be going getting the Palm Pre