Apple kicks out MobileMe iDisk app for iPhone
By Darren Murph 
posted July 30th 2009 7:59AM
posted July 30th 2009 7:59AM
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Get over yourself Apple!?
Yeah, What?
@ Eddy Munn
I'm just in a bad mood today.
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Two words.....
Drop Box!
Can't multitask? Ha! http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/07/28/the-palm-preiphone-multitasking-myth/
@ trainwrecka "Can't multitask? Ha! http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/07/28/the-palm-preiphone-multitasking-myth/"
After quickly reading the "article" you linked to, it is clearly written by a very pro-Apple author with clearly anti-Pre tendencies, making any pretense of objectivity laughable. For example, when talking about the iPhone's "multitasking" the article praises the iPhone's limited multitasking only between Apple's native apps ("iPhone only multitasked things that made sense: users could surf the web while taking on the phone, or listen to music while playing games") (why Apple, or this author get to be the arbiters of what "makes sense" as far as multitasking is beyond me... they are completely taking the user out of the decision-making process, which, I suspect, is what irks most people about the iPhone's lack of full multitasking), but barely mentions the inability to multitask with 3rd party apps, which the article states as a good thing because "third party developers couldn’t install their own background processes to sap performance and battery life or introduce unanticipated security issues").
Meanwhile, when discussing the Pre, the author offers back-handed praise like "The Palm Pre does indeed offer some novel user interface features that include the presentation of multiple types of data together" (which seems like a huge mischaracterization of the Pre's multitasking abilities... and rather characterizes it as a pretty UI... kind of ironic coming from someone praising the iPhone), and even downright fan-boi-ish troll baiting like the following "However, the Pre’s 'applications' are so limited that it becomes a joke to compare them to the iPhone’s. There is no support for hardware accelerated graphics in real games, and in place of sophisticated application frameworks, Palm has simply exposed a way to build applet widgets using HTML and JavaScript." (I'm also guessing that this description of the Pre's means of allowing developers to build Pre apps is also slightly off, but I am not programming literate enough to find out, nor do I care, because even if the author is right, HTML and JavaScript and Flash (which will be supported by the Pre, http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2340942,00.asp... but still nothing "Flash"y from the iPhone) will be able to do more than enough for my needs *on a phone*)
In short, your article adds nothing new to the conversation here.
But, "multitasking" as we are using it here means "full multitasking," in other words, the user gets to decide if it is worth multitasking between native apps and 3rd party apps, instead of having their hand held by a company that only allows you to multitask when it "makes sense" according to the manufacturer, even if it severely limits the user's ability to use the phone how they wish. This is why the iPhone will never be a serious business phone, or even a moderately-useful business phone. That is fine for many people, but it is still severely limiting and a deal-breaker for many others.
Finally, somewhat unrelated, I don't believe Palm has ever claimed that the Pre had the ability to be as good of a gaming phone as the iPhone can be, but for many users (like me), the ability to play high-powered games just isn't a priority. At most, I want basic games like Tetris, not graphics-intensive 1st person shooters. It's a phone (or ultra-mobile computer if you prefer), how high-powered of a gaming device do you need? And if you need really high-powered gaming, why would you want to use the iPhone for it... wouldn't you just get a PSP?
Theres about 20 iDisk-like apps in the app store for
Just tried it, it's a good option to have access to a lot files remotely. Also saved me some space, just stream a movie from the app to the phone.
the title is mad confusing..
i thought it meant apple kicked the app out of its app store
Me too :)
Show's how positively we view Apple eh.
*Shows :P
Haha. I thought the same. Was like damn. Glad I got it yesterday.
LOL@ the thought of Apple's app approval process so bat shit insane as to start rejecting their own apps :D.
Excellent.
Finally, we get this D: Remote access is good.
Found this the other day - works quite well... I like it.
I still miss being able to actually access the data on my phone. Or copy files to it. Or use Google Voice. Anyone want to buy an iPhone?
I'll give you the GV gripe, but you can copy stuff to your phone, and access the data. It's sort of the point of this.
Of course, it only works if you have MobileME...
Title is bad, I thought it had been kicked out of the app store!
+1 - Bad title given Apple's unreasonable removals from the App Store...
Not to get off subject but you wouldn't happen to be the same MRCUR from the Xbox forums would you?
Sugarsync does this as well as is multi platform (Windows, Mac, iphone, blackberry, android, win mobile). Anyone can get 2 GB of free storage, and pay if you need more.
I agree that I miss being able to access files directly on the iPod touch. Why not allow it to mount as a flash drive, like the older ipods? Sure, there are various programs that allow you to upload and download programs using Bonjour and a WAN, but it's often hard to set up and buggy. And the files are still hard to manage.
+1, i got datacase a while back, which is cool at home, but I can't connect to my work's wireless any more (admin restrictions) so it's basically useless, and all those apps haven't bothered updating anything in months
It cannot show password-protected Excel files (or maybe any PW-protected files - I haven't tried).
*number* of days, not amount of days.
Ah, and I thought I was the only one who still appreciates that countable and mass nouns are not the same thing.
It is knowing that kind of detail, that makes all the difference between being someone who puts words on a page, and being a writer. There are very few writers left in the world.
Of course, a good editor always helps, which explains why the writing from traditional news outlets is nearly always of a much higher quality than that found in the new media. I have often thought that the only thing Engadget needs to go from "good source of info" to "great source for tech news" is an editor who performs some basic checks on each article before it is published.
to take attention away from them denying Google voice
Cue countdown to all other OTA file syncing apps getting kicked out for 'duplicating functionality'.
"It still can't multitask,"
It still can't multitask 3rd Party Applications. It can and does multitask.
The ipod add running in the background is not multitasking. Sorry.
No, but talking on the phone while looking up something on line is.
There's still a few smartphones out there that still can't do simultaneous voice and data but that's more of a carrier issue then anything else.
Ever open up an email and then your your calendar to see if you are free that day without having to re-open that same email to reply while Pandora is running in the background No? Didn't think so.
Having to open and close applications to perform simple functions like reply to an email or enter a calendar entry is NOT multitasking.
Playing music in the background while using applications is not multitasking. It does plenty of things well, but your precious iPhone does not multitask. Get over it.
The iPhone is geared more toward multi-media such as movies, music and games. However, they are releasing more and more applications that allow you to edit and save work-related documents. For me, my iPhone is for my personal entertainment. There isn't a smartphone out there that does everything perfect. Palm and RIM are better at work-related items, but horrible at the music, movies and games aspects. Maybe Apple will continue to work on the enterprise portion for future releases, but it's damn near perfect as it is!
As for the author's comment that the iPhone "still can't multitask", I'm confused. Yeah, I can't keep 10, battery draining, bullshit apps running in the background at once, but I can listen to music while I download movies and music, check email and play games. The push notifications are working wonderfully for me, so I don't see much of an advantage of background apps. There are a few apps that I would like to run without interruption, but the cons far out-weigh the pros with background apps. Apple is also talking about giving each user the option of choosing a few apps to run in the background. Necessary? No, but it should shut up some of the people crying about background apps. Problem is, these same people will then bitch about the drainage of battery these apps cause. Bottom line, you can't please everyone, but Apple has done a great job with please 90% of it's customers!
Hey did anyone else notice that in this screenshot, the way you switch between various iDisk areas is very much like how palm handles the "cards" system? I'm specifically referring to the previous and next areas showing just a sliver of themselves.
I don't have an iphone so I am not sure who did what first. Also, even if one of them did do it first, it's not that revolutionary of an ui design that someone else can't use it.
But given Apple's own frantic ravings at having their design flagrantly stolen, it seems a bit ironic IF that were the case.
Remember, it ok when they do it.
Just keep telling yourself that over and over again.
That's how you view screenshots in the App Store. It's pretty slick. They appear inline as you scroll down the page, but once you are on one, you can scroll left and right.
Er, that was a joke from Engadget's photoshop dept.
Uh, that's just the App Store screenshots screen.
@ryuji009,
That UI is already on the iPhone since day 1, in the form of Mobile Safari tabbed browsing.
so looks like Apple implemented this earlier than the cards system on Palm Pre.
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First thing I thought of when I saw that picture: Palm Pre's multitasking.
Did you think that back in 2007 when we saw iPhone's implementation of Safari tabs?
First thing I thought of when I saw that picture: iPod Touch / iPhone's Safari tabs.
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It still can't multitask well, but as of today, it's finally capable of accessing and sharing SkyDrive files. Microsoft has at long last let loose a long-awaited application for Windows Mobile 6.5 that enables Windows CE and Pocket PC users with Windows Live accounts to access the inner rooms of their own SkyDrive. The app lets you login, view files (up to 20MB or so, says Microsoft) and share files by sending others a link via email to what you want to share. There's also an option to password protect those files and limit the amount of days the download is active, though viewing files is limited to Windows-supported file types such as Office, Windows Media, PDF, etc. If you're a not a paying user, go on and give this one a download -- it's not free though, you know?
Still with the multitasking. Question: how is multitasking helping Pre sales? Oh, wait, that's right, Sprint won't say. No worries, when a publicly traded company withholds such info, then the info must be good, right?
I've been on the waiting list for a Pre since 3 days after it came out. I wouldn't call a phone that is selling as fast at they can make them a flop.
Perhaps they are weary to release numbers right now because as soon as they do there will be an article on Engadget concluding that the iPhone is the better phone because it had x sales after y days, but the Pre only had z sales.
And over on TechCrunch, they'll have an article saying that to date the iPhone has sold 9034583102945 units to date, whereas the pre has only sold 1000000 to date. Then They'll continue to extrapolate from there and make baseless conclusions before concluding that Palm will fold in a few weeks.
Sorry but this is NOT want I want. I'm looking at buying a 32GB iPhone 3GS and therefore it will have 32GB of available memory, which is more than it available on my iDisk. More importantly, data on the phone will be much faster to access, quicker to synchronise with my computer and viewing the data will not eat into my monthly data plan if I am on a cellular network connection (note: I do not live in a country that is blessed with an unlimited monthly data allowance). I don't mind this being an additional service to local file access but local access to my documents is more important to me.
Frankly, I've always found the performance of iDisk to be pretty poor so that doesn't improve my opinion of this.
WTF? I've had iDisk since last Septmeber......
I'm waiting for the Dropbox iPhone app. 2GB of free storage that has native shell integration on OS X, Windows, Linux, and any modern browser, without the need to further tie myself down to Apple.
It'll be rejected for duplicating functionality and for its potential to terrorize cell towers. Sorry.