Unlike the
Pure's transformation from its
Touch Diamond2 roots, AT&T's
Tilt 2 is very much a
Touch Pro2 for look and feel. Given our past experiences with the device, we'd say that'll suit the phone's business-oriented clientele just fine -- it's not like you'd want to turn it into a "fun" phone by coating it in wacky colors and preloading it with every social networking client this side of Orkut, after all. We didn't have a ton of time to pore over the interface, but we get the impression that TouchFLO is largely intact (though tweaked by AT&T, naturally) and the keyboard's different than what you'll find on the generic European version -- the top row is all symbols with a numeric pad (a little staggered, unfortunately) near the right side. Check out a few more sexily-lit shots in the gallery.
posted Oct 8th 2009 6:19PM
Does the screen have a slight wobble of about 5 mm in either direction (while in the upright tilted position) like all the other Touch Pro2's ?
The T-Mobile Touch Pro2 doesn't have the wobble at all, its hinge is tighter than all the other TP2's.
AT&T ruins another keyboard.
Why can't they just sell the TP2 instead of messing with it?
Anyway , when , last spring, the TP2 became available in my little country , I tried to use it for a few days to decide if it was worth to get it instead of my 1 year old TouchHD and I decided that the TouchHD was still far better: better camera, better videocam, better looks and once one downloads one of the excellent third party virtual keyboards available , the physical k-board is absolutely superfluos.
In 20 days though the mighty HD2 will be released here; I already preordered and as soon as I will get it I will sell my beloved TouchHD; not my HTC Hero though : That one I'm gonna keep anyway.
So, does it have a 3.5mm headphone jack? I'm guessing not.
Also, I knew it wouldn't take long to get a comment about the keyboard :-). Glad my provider is sprint. Only real downside for me is that I can't use internet at the same time.
If you look at 6th pic, it doesn't, it's just similar with T-Mobile or European/Asian variants, only CDMA version has dedicated 3.5mm jack.
Are there really circumstances where you think you're disadvantaged because you're on the phone and can't use the internet?
When you're trying to watch some streaming 'educational videos' and then your wife/significant other calls to blabber on and on...
I dont see the big deal, youre prone to use the "," "," and other symbols MUCH more than the numbers. Thats what the on screen dialpad is for! I dont know many people who dial off the hard keyboard with the phone slid open
Also, yes the 3.5mm jack is an inconvenience but not a deal breaker. Plug your headphones into the dongle, roll them up, and stick them in your pocket together. They even make smaller dongles that are just a wire with a plug on each end for a few buck. I dont see the huge earth shattering loss. An inconvenience at best.
In texting and emails, do you really use the symbols more than the numbers?
I beg 2 differ. 4 instance, look at this sentence. 0 symbols.
Odds are you will probably use numbers more. Do you not send addresses or phone numbers to other people in text or emails? Even on a regular computer keyboard, those symbols are shifted because you use them LESS than numbers.
I have both the old Tilt (no numbers) and the Touch Pro (Sprint version with dedicated number row) and I find typing with the Touch Pro way more useful. Most qwerty phones don't have the dedicated number row so most people won't see the benefit, but once you have a phone that does have it (many LG and Verizon phones), your opinion will change.
Actually 4 symbols and 3 digits ;) youve got three stops and one comma.. :)
I agree with klmsu.. using the fuze ive actually started liking the idea of having the ? and the / and other symbols more than actually using numbers...
oh the irony...
count how many "." and "," "?" "(" and ")" are in your post compared to numbers- all in the symbol row. I count 19 symbols versus 3 forced numbers. My point stands.
People dont type like that 2 spell 4 business. This is a business device, period.
Seriously, the keyboard layout on ATT version is pretty weird.
Look at other versions, the number keys and symbol keys are matched accordingly with US type and we are more comfortable with that way,
Hold.
1. Periods and commas are not in the symbol row. Both the ded and non-ded versions have those as their own keys.
2. In text messages, one rarely uses most of those symbols save the '?'. How many passwords do you have that have those symbols instead of numbers?
3. Purely a business phone? Really? Well in that case, I hope your business doesn't involve financial information where your emails and communication would involve... gasp... numbers!
4. As to the speed factor with how the numbers are placed, as a systems programmer, I find using the top row numbers quicker than 10-key. As an accountant, that would be different... but based on a US keyboard... the dedicated number row is something people are more used to... even the parentheses are shifted symbols.
5. Do any of you actively use two phones with the different layouts to give us real world usage results?
it may not be a deal breaker for some, heck... Blackberries and Palms don't have dedicated number rows... but I find it a huge convenience to have them. But I'll only use 2 of those symbols as frequently as I could use all 10 numbers.
I've had two T-Mobile versions that wobbled. The upright screens felt like a loose tooth and a problem that would probably only get worse over time so sent them both back. It's a widespread problem with all versions according to xda-developers website.
You're lying or your perception is WAY off, thats one of my phones and its tight as can be. They even note that in Reviews all over the net. I'm Very sure you've Never had that particular Version Ms.Heidey, Please stop wasting our time. Thanks.
Seconded. My T-Mo TP2 keeps erect very well with no wobble.
I also can't understand the negative comments about the keyboard. The AT&T layout is a huge improvement over the others. The point of a QWERTY keyboard is to type legibly and sensibly. If you want to type gangster and use numbers for letters and everything else then get a cheap phone and do it. This phone is a business device for business users who type with correct punctuation. Also, the number spread out at the top makes them much harder to type in as opposed to be grouped together as they are for AT&T. If you don't like the keyboard layout and the lack of an audio jack, you'd be better off with a dumbphone, not this device.
you do use more numbers still, but even so, this is more efficient
when you type on this device, you're already using two hands, so you holding that fn button with your right thumb isn't something that takes a lot of effort; you're not doing more work
in fact, when you need to put in multiple numbers one after another, you'd be doing LESS work
in that case, this layout will be more accurate and be always, ALWAYS! faster since your thumbs don't have to move as much, not to mention you only need your right thumb, alternating between the two
"If you want to type gangster" = LOL
HTC is really cool phone .
@Gaylen My perception is fine and clear. I perceive that you are possibly a fanboy that would defend your phone's reputation at all cost. I could be wrong about that but I'm dead on right about the wobble issue. If you'll read the 15-page thread on the subject you might gain some insight. Some phones are tight but most are loose. HTC says that they should lock firmly into place when in the upright position. I've returned two of these phones. Why would someone lie about that? I have high hopes that AT&T's version will be more solid. That's why I submitted the question. Read the xda thread. Yah there's a lot of early reviews that report a solid phone. That's why I and a lot of other people were so shocked to find out otherwise. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524641
Unless perhaps it's a waste of your time because you were planted here by HTC to discredit any and all negative impressions... I'm just saying..
I just bought an iPhone 3Gs and I absolutely love the thing. There are two large problems however: no tethering available, and the battery won't last for a full day even with Bluetooth and WiFi turned off. (The latter is the deal breaker.)
Anybody know if tethering (internet sharing) is enabled by default like it was on the Fuze? Does it have visual voicemail like the BB and the iPhone? I hope there is a brief review coming soon!
Thanks for the update engadget!
use safari on ur iphone and go to www.unluckit.co.nz and u'll be able to tether in no time =]
www.unlockit.co.nz my bad typo
@ Kim Bun: I know that there are workarounds that would allow me to data tether, but I want to do this legitimately.
Here's the story no one is covering: The Tilt2 already comes with WM6.5 and TF3D 2.1. That's it, it's already got 6.5 so there's no upgrades coming. All the other U.S. Touch Pro2s came with 6.1 and TF3D 2.1. With the upgrade to WM6.5, HTC says they'll be getting HTC Sense, which is TF3D 2.5 or 2.6.
This makes the Tilt2 a ripoff. It came too early to the WM6.5 party and got screwed.
I have the sprint TP2 and the whole 3.5 thing was never really a plus for me I really don’t care on using the adapter on all my previous HTC phones. Everybody else gets bent out of shape when it doesn’t have one because it isn’t “stylish” or whatever. So I actually found it quite amusing when my 3.5 goes out completely on my TP2 less 30 days after I got it. This is my fourth HTC phone and first one to give problems. Ooh and the so called “G@N&ST@ T@LK” or retard talk uses lots of symbols too
Coming from an old wizzard with a shifted number row it has to be an improvement, especially since my alt key does not work half the time, makes spreadsheets a real pain.
Why is it every Pro generation has one messed-up keyboard? Verizon displaced the Pro's 'm' key and AT&T does this...
As an owner of the Verizon TP2 I must say I use the number line a good amount. That was one of the reasons why I upgraded from the Glyde. Why would anyone ever think displacing the numbers to the middle and putting a bunch of symbols in their place is a good idea?
When would you use _ or ! over a number, especially on this device? (as a user of it, I can tell you the symbols are the least-useful of the keys)
Not to mention for the Calendar it's much more efficient to have numbers readily available instead of symbols for entering dates and times.
Shame it doesn't even come with a 3.5mm jack to make up for the unneeded rearrangement. The 3.5mm allows the TP2 to successfully replace my aging iPod Nano and use the same headphones. Excellent device, with a proper keyboard that is.
Only time will tell, but it looks like they blew it.
This buyer has decided to pass and wait for the Leo.
Does the ATT version include Aim?