AT&T loses request for injunction against Verizon's Map for That ads
Looks like AT&T's not getting its holiday wish after all -- a federal judge just ruled against Ma Bell's request to have Verizon's Map For That ads pulled off the air. That doesn't mean that this whole thing is over, though: the judge called the ads "sneaky" and said that it was possible people might misunderstand them because "most people who are watching TV are semi-catatonic." Whether or not that's enough to support a legal conclusion that the ads are misleading is a fight for another day -- specifically December 16th, when AT&T will have a second chance to argue its case. Still, this is a big win for Verizon -- everyone ready to be inundated with these ads for the next month?
























Why don't you finish the 3rd grade before you share your stupidity with the world?
except the iPhone doesn't because it can only run one app at a time.
Yeah, instead of suing, they should actually try being competitive. Get some of their own ads out there, and keep working on expanding their 3G coverage.
I was wondering what that "iPhone" thing was so I held the search key for a second on my Droid and said iphone and at the speed of 3G i saw that it was an ipod touch with a cell phone in it. So i held my home button and saw the last six things i was doing and chose to come back here to post this.
Now Word, before you tell me my story is completely fictional and something that will only be possible years from now, realize that a lot of us are not using iPhones so the majority of us are using multitasking on cell phones that you do not yet believe in because Apple will not invent it until 2014 when cell phones are as fast as Core 2's of this day and age.
Maybe you have not heard but the 3G even in cities is spotty.
I do not think Verizon is too worried. Sprint should raise their ETF with how many people are leaving :/
you know I wish a judge would say something about that. I'm fine with Verizon forking up $400 for their smart phones and making that the ETF. so what that ATT pays up the same but charges only half. that's their business.
but companies claim that the ETF is because of that money, which is essentially a loan we pay back over the course of the contract. but that should mean that the prorate is 1/24th of the amount. at $10 a month if I quit 23 months in I have to pay $120 to Verizon when I have been led to believe that I have paid, via my contract, $335 of the $350 fee. So if $14 of my monthly fee is payback on the device they are making $105 profit off of me with that scheme.
@threedee912
OR...
They could spend their money on just there network instead of advertisments and network...
im sorry, i dont.
go away.
I guess that means NYC and San Fransisco don't qualify as metropolitan areas.
FAIL, word. The iPhone is limited to one app at a time.
Product fanboys are silly enough, but corporation fanboys?
Those white spots aren't in areas where the network is stressed... those are in spots where the 3G network doesn't exist.
Post more things. I am interested in what you have to say and would like to hear more. PlzThx
No, they don't.
They might desire an iPhone. They WANT it on Verizon.
Oh my god. Where do you get your information from? Bewbs-R-Us?
Lots of people respond no "iPhone is limited to 1 app at a time", thats true for 3rd party apps....I'm not saying that I enjoy or support that limit, but for naive apps, you can indeed surf, talk and use GPS at the same time, because Apple ships those apps with the iPhone.
AT&T could run an add explaining that, because it is true.
Verizon had more revenue and profit even before the Alltel acquisition. Meanwhile, at&t could be said to be "falling behind", since they used to have the most customers, but are now #2. So, um, I guess you're saying at&t is the company that needs to improve their network, so I agree with you?
A survey of at&t showed that every single person with an iPhone hates it and wants the Droid.
See, I can make things up too!
'I can't even understand what your saying any more? Where are you getting your stats from? Why are you writing the date like that? Why the fuck are you capitalizing "Activations"? "Might have to rethink business plan there." Really? You do realize they are the #1 wireless carrier in the US and also make the most revenue.
http://aboutus.vzw.com/aboutusoverview.html
Probably won't do that because they're planning on raising their own ETF.
theres a boobs-r-us store? where!?!??
Has this guy even used both of the networks around the country?
lol @ the idea of you having friends...
Ahaha, like you expect any of us to believe you have any friends.
Except that advertising that you can leave the service for cheaper is a stupid idea. Actually every idea you have had on this article has been dumb. Just stop.
Blow up sex dolls and a tube sock hardly count as friends.
Yes, truckers who want cell phone service.
Tell me, what happened to you as a child? Do you cry a lot?
The Tour, Perl, Storm line, Omnia line, Saga, Eris, TP2, Ozone, Imagio, and Droid would all like to beg an differ there.
Wow then you must have some dumb friends if they can't do that all at once on those phones.
My god, are you a spambot? Can't you find better things to do other than spewing gibberish on the interweb?
So, what if they can surf the web and make calls at the same time, at least they are sending and receiving their call, while with AT&T you'd be luck if you can get your call to send, or have a constant 3G connection.
Probably, cause they made him kiss Ralph de la Vega's ass as a child.
"big red one"
What is the color of your ass after bending over and taking in hard from AT&T multiple times a day.
@Phoenix: "except the iPhone doesn't because it can only run one app at a time."
except... it does everything he just said at the same time. phone. surf. gps. not an issue. i can talk, while nav is running, and im checking mail or surfing. i guess youve been sipping the iphone hateraide though, and didnt decide to fact check. its ok.
You realize the word 'and' is spelled A-N-D, non 'n', right? But other than that, you really seem to know what you're talking about.
@microdot
try throwing pandora into that mix while surfing the web and see how well that works for ya
Word, Shut the f*ck up! You're the most annoying parasite I've seen on here in a long time. So GTFO my internet, and try to come up with some better arguments.
i just went through 3 pages of comments, noticing the amount of comments by this "word" guy, and also noticing that each one was greyed out, so i thought i would take the time to read them.. and all i have to say is...
SHUT THE F**K UP TROLL!
Verizon just destroyed AT&T and all your bullsh*t stats are full of crap
wow didnt see that coming
ATT = PWND BADLY
i did. I knew the judge wasn't going to force the ads off as false advertising. Because the ad clearly labels the maps as 3g coverage and the data is correct. those maps are the 3g coverage areas for each service, as stated by each company
The trouble is that 3g isn't a standardized term. so comparing Verizon's 3g to ATT's 3g is apples and oranges. Verizon's 3g is more at the level of ATT's Edge service.
Instead of coming off as insulting cell phone users by making it sound like ATT thinks they are stupid, they should be playing to the assumption of intelligence and giving them the facts. Tell them the definitions and how things play out. give them not just 'the truth' but the 'whole truth'
you know, there's a map for that:
http://i587.photobucket.com/albums/ss319/supersonic215/PWNED.png?t=1258586704
They say "3g only" very freaking clearly!
I don't get how this is false advertising. At All. ATT makes a lot of claims that they could put into a commercial, but the Verizon ad is not ambiguous at all that the maps display the 3G coverage of each network and nothing other than that.
What's worse is the judge whining about how people watching commercials are catatonic.
OK... who cares? I'm daydreaming, so I might think budweiser will give me ten hot girlfriends? No. All viewers know that they can't rely on ads without reading the fine print. In this case, it's actually huge bold print, and ATT's claim is simply ridiculous.
@Charli that's a flat out lie, Charli. Verizon's 3G is just as capable as AT&T's in real world testing. In fact, in a lot of locations, AT&T's 3G isn't as fast as it's EDGE theoretical speeds. The big difference is that Verizon's 3G is their entire network, whereas AT&T's 3G disappears as soon as you leave a major metropolitan area.
"Verizon's 3g is more at the level of ATT's Edge service."
No, it isn't.
If you'd ever used Verizon's 3G and AT&T's EDGE, you wouldn't even think of saying that they are comparable. They are not. Verizon's 3G is several times faster.
"Verizon's 3g is more at the level of ATT's Edge service."
There is a big difference between 500k on AT&T's 3g (if that) and 1meg with Verizon's 3g speeds.
Charli, that's a lie. While AT&T's network is theoretically fast, Verizon's 3G is still very fast, and certainly waaaaaaaay faster than Edge. Only an Apple fanboy could say something like that. How's your iPhone treating you?
The other advantage of Verizon's 3G is anywhere you have Verizon you have 3G. AT&T's 3G is only available in major metro areas and is quite unreliable from my experience. I never have problems with Verizon's network failing me.
Verizon says they have more coverage, and they provided a map for proof.
AT&T keeps saying they have the Nation's Fastest 3G Network... but where's their proof?
I think people care more about coverage than speed... so AT&T is just pissed that they put more effort into speed instead of coverage.