Apples and oranges. Saying "Android will outsell the iPhone" is like saying "Windows Mobile will outsell BlackBerry."

One's an OS, the other is a hardware/OS combo.

The real question - and the only fair comparison - is whether or not a single smartphone model running Android (a "G-Phone", if you will) will outsell the iPhone. And in my humble opinion, the answer is a resounding no. Thoughts?

@Fido

Yeah, thanks for pointing out how BlackBerries work.

Now try taking a look at how LG flip phones compress data. You might learn something.

Sure. I was just pointing out, to Fido's defense, that there *is* a viable market for a 12 MB plan.

Of course, only a handful of people -- and even fewer Engadget subscribers -- belong to that market. :)

Wait just a minute.

Let's put this in perspective. The VAST majority of average feature phone users exhaust FAR less than 10MB / month (assuming, of course, that they don't tether). In fact, the average BlackBerry subscriber (who relies on data much more heavily than his Fido counterpart using a 12-key LG TU500) only uses around 4 MB on average.

So, all considered, $10 for a data plan is damn good price assuming it's put on a flip phone like the TU 500 with a WAP browser.

Laptop cards and tethered units are a different story, of course...

Are you kidding? That was hilarious! I also like the "Great Wall of Fiber" suggestion conceived below.

That Chinese restaurants tend to serve a lot of take-out might be a stereotype, but it's a harmless one. Anyway, the very concept of "take-out" is much more condescending to overcasual, lethargic Americans than Chinese.

What's much more threatening to racial harmony is people overreacting to benign, well-intentioned humor like this.

On the American side, Verizon. There are a number of Chinese telecoms joining forces on their side of the Pacific.

Matt --

You're just, well, wrong.

EDGE is a data-only cellular network, much like EV-DO or GPRS. In fact, the ONLY cellular network capable of simultaneous circuit-switched voice and data is UMTS/HSDPA, which of course is not available on the iPhone.

The iPhones in AT&T and Apple stores are running on WiFi, a non-cellular technology which can be used in conjunction with voice service.

You would have experienced the same "bug" on a an 8125, a Nokia E62, a BlackBerry, a Motorola Q, or any other device running on EDGE (or EV-DO, for that matter).

E-ink... is... the... shiznit.

This will replace my Movado Juro. Gimme gimme gimme!

Wow! EDGE speeds here in New Orleans are blazing right now:

Attempt 1 --> 240 kbps
Attempt 2 --> 248 kbps
Attempt 3 --> 219 kbps
Attempt 4 --> 254 kbps

Still a LOT of latency (>600 ms), but that's to be expected.

Nytimes.com took about 35 seconds to load on my EDGE-enabled Nokia, but that was using the full HTML browser, which downloads more than 400 kb of data from nytimes.com. For comparison's sake, my WCDMA Blackjack loaded the same site in about 11 seconds, while my EV-DO-enabled laptop took about 15.

I'm more and more fond of EDGE as time goes on... try to get EV-DO or HSDPA in areas like Cut-off, Louisiana or Northern Mississippi and you'll see what I mean. I'd rather have nationwide speeds of 200 kbps than sporadic 3G access.

That said, I still won't buy the damn iPhone. But kudos to AT&T for helping out us EDGE users.