Oh dear, look at the mess I've created.

@Sebastian
We're going in circles here. The "incentives" you speak of are artificial and will never take hold until there is a real market demand for the technology.

@Brazell
I agree and furthermore I believe this is just another left-wing money grab because if you've seen CA's deficit numbers, they obviously can't sustain their reckless spending without new taxes. This is just a back-door way to institute a new tax, under the guise of "saving the Earth".

@Fais
That's a rather unfair illustration of conservatism. Yes I'm looking out for our quality of life, but I'm also looking out for the millions of jobs that would be destroyed by cap&trade, and the likes of it.

@Sebastian
Yes the sun is abundant but at the moment the technology is not quite there. Once solar technology advances to the point of being cheaper than what the Earth has to offer, the free markets will naturally swing to solar power.

@melloncollie
I see what you're saying, but I really think the free market will triumph. Obviously oil won't run out *all of a sudden* - (one day we've got gas, the next day we don't). It will slowly become more and more expensive until the cost is prohibitive, and we are, by our frugal nature, forced to utilize another source of energy.

No apology necessary. This has certainly been more civilized than many internet debates.

@rickjamess04
Agreed on the nuclear power point. It's clean and abundant. Why the government has ignored this proven method of power production eludes me. Perhaps it's the tree-hugger aversion to the word "nuclear" that has bled into public opinion.

@Fais
Yes there is a way to argue against that. It's that this kind of legislation is an absolute job-killer, and it's the last thing we need in such a fragile economy. We would only be putting ourselves more at risk to the growth of the world's emerging economies.

@melloncollie
I respectfully disagree. I don't think we need regulations; I think the free markets are enough to put our resource appetites in check. We've been "running out" of oil for a while now, and while the government has made significant investments in alternative energy development, and (albeit slowly) tried to regulate auto emissions, it took the oil price spike to actually create real interest in alternative energy. Another example is salmon fish, the populations of which were at one point utterly decimated. So we began building enormous salmon farms, since the demand was there, and now we have all the salmon we could ever want, and for a quarter as much as it cost a few decades ago.

I know not every resource is renewable, but we will always find a way to get what we want.

@melloncollie
Look dude, the only "problem" is that humans consume resources. There is no escaping that. We are also smart, and once the availability of a resource begins to dwindle, we will either find a way to make more of it, or find something to replace it. What I'd like to know is how you can justify destroying our economy with cap & trade carbon limiting.

Climate change is NORMAL.

This is ridiculous. How about you let people pay for more power consumption if they want it? That seems to have worked pretty well so far. "Climate change" is a joke.

I'm glad I don't live in CA any more, but I fear these kind of mandates will sweep across other states as politicized, alarmist science continues to influence new legislation.

I haven't heard anything but you might want to check out VHS2HDDVD

Exactly.

A couple come to mind:
- Upgrading from XP to Vista like a year and a half ago
- Trying out the Win7 beta
- Putting a couple hard drives in RAID and reinstalling 7 Beta
- Installing the final release of 7 last month

Digital Copy is a joke. I got one with Dark Knight. One activation and it's useless. (So for any of us who reload our OSes with any kind of frequency, we're hosed.)

DRM-free or bust.