LOL...you guys are too much. Loving the site overhaul.

It IS an HTC device, just with a Sony interface/branding.

HTC's most recent press release: http://www.dailytech.com/HTC+to+Release+Software+Fix+for+Video+Issues+Next+Month/article10751.htm#cmt256752

Someone (Ajax9000) in response:

Misleading marketing does not go down well with consumers, regulators, or courts/tribunals and it seems to me that HTC is digging itself into a deep hole here.

There has been comment that just because the device has the hardware, that doesn't mean there is a commitment to enable it. One analogy was with PC, motherboards -- just because the chipset may support (say) SPDIF out, doesn't guarantee that there will be an SPDIF port/header. So just because Qualcomm promotes an advanced feature in its chipset marketing, doesn't mean that the device will support it, let alone the service provider.

This is basically what HTC claims in the above press release.

BUT, as was pointed out in dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=10393... HTC (not Qualcomm) promoted the advanced features. HTC has issued at least one press release (http://www.htc.com/press_room/03-press-070905.htm ) in which they go well beyond merely saying this chipset is used -- they quote Qualcomm so as to explicitly list advanced features of the chipset, and in the next paragraph note that they have released ten products based on these chipsets.

That Lin's new statement now says "unlocking extended capabilities of chipsets like the MSM 7xxx requires in-depth and time consuming software development, complicated licensing negotiations, potential intellectual property negotiations, added licensing fees, and ... " arguable puts HTC in the position of implying that their earlier claims were misleading.

Just to reiterate that point -- on September 5, 2007 HTC ( not Qualcomm) highlighted the advanced features of the chipsets and then immediately associated those with its products. Lin's new statement disassociates the advanced features of the chipsets from the HTC products. IMNSHO this is not a clarification, it is a contradiction, and a contradiction that implies that their earlier claims were misleading.


All this= CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT BABY, FTW!

finally

You and me both Dave...

What's the status with the 3d acceleration and video driver issues plaguing all HTC's other devices? Does it affect this too? Methinks very likely...

But does it have the same driver problems that plagie all of HTC's devices?

Y'all should check out Eten's products. Perfect except for the fact that they only ship with 64MB RAM.

IraqiGeek, you want to talk "promises"? How about GPS capability and the fact that the same drivers deteriorate TomTom performance and even basic file browsing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIJWAu6IRe4

Stop making it look like this is a problem only kids who want to play games experience. As a graphic designer I used to use a number of graphics apps (VS Painter etc) for quick doodles on the go, all without a hitch on my Eten M600. I also preferred using Picsel browser for my day to day browsing. Yes,once in awhile I'd want to fire up a "designed for windows mobile" game like Skyforce. NONE OF THEM runs as they should (ie: optimally) on the Tilt. When people have shelled out more than 500 to 700 dollars for a product you advertise as running on an advanced chip capable of all these things and fail to implement them you owe your loyal customer-base an explanation. By pushing and touting the graphics and communications capabilities of the Q chip they IMPLIED that these new devices were capable of all this and as such was the reason many of us bought them. By your same argument they should then have listed in the spec-sheet that the drivers were being omitted so customers could have made an informed purchase decision. This was a classic bait-and-switch. As far as I'm concerned I hope Eten is listening. Eten, your devices are beautiful...just up the RAM to 128MB and you have a loyal user. I'm done with HTC.

IraqiGeek, you want to talk "promises"? How about GPS capability and the fact that the same drivers deteriorate TomTom performance and even basic file browsing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIJWAu6IRe4

Stop making it look like this is a problem only kids who want to play games experience. As a graphic designer I used to use a number of graphics apps (VS Painter etc) for quick doodles on the go, all without a hitch on my Eten M600. I also preferred using Picsel browser for my day to day browsing. Yes,once in awhile I'd want to fire up a "designed for windows mobile" game like Skyforce. NONE OF THEM runs as they should (ie: optimally) on the Tilt. When people have shelled out more than 500 to 700 dollars for a product you advertise as running on an advanced chip capable of all these things and fail to implement them you owe your loyal customer-base an explanation. By pushing and touting the graphics and communications capabilities of the Q chip they IMPLIED that these new devices were capable of all this and as such was the reason many of us bought them. By your same argument they should then have listed in the spec-sheet that the drivers were being omitted so customers could have made an informed purchase decision. This was a classic bait-and-switch. As far as I'm concerned I hope Eten is listening. Eten, your devices are beautiful...just up the RAM to 128MB and you have a loyal user. I'm done with HTC.

You heard HTC? I'm DONE!