@Jeff -

Look at the way the image gets fuzzy (even for close up objects) toward the corners. This is a sign of poor optics. This is especially evident in the picture of (what I think is) the motorola Q. Look at the upper-right hand corner; it should be dead sharp, and it's not.

Also, examine the shadows -- there is a great deal of noise, especially for shots taken outside at a speed of ISO 80 (as indicated by the EXIF data). The particular shot that I'm looking at here is kdk_0011.jpg. This is a sign of a poor sensor.

The photos also exhibit a great deal of heavy-handed postprocessing (noise reduction / sharpening). This is a sign that Moto is aware of the poor optics / poor sensor issue.

Phone = sexy
(what i'm assuming to be) sample photos = crap

Don't they know that making a great camera phone isn't about slapping a name brand on the optics? What makes a great camera phone great is, well, a great camera. C'mon, moto, I know you can do it.

I have an N95 8GB right now. It takes decent photos (definitely better than those in the read link). I'm not even going to consider replacing it until somebody releases 5MP phone that takes *digital camera* quality 5MP shots, or even better, something > 5MP that shoot like a camera.

I wish a manufacturer would start with an ultra-compact, ultra-svelt digital camera and shoehorn a cell phone into it, instead of the other way around. That's what I'm waiting for.

I'm doing my graduate thesis on Software Defined Radio / Cognitive Radio technology, and let me tell you, with currently available hardware, it's a pretty tall order. I'm using GNU Radio on Ubuntu Linux with a USRP, but honestly, the stuff is not faster or more stable on Linux than it is on Windows. If you want to know more about Microsoft's white space project, and their Cognitive Radio system, take a look at the following link. It has a crapload of information:

http://research.microsoft.com/netres/projects/KNOWS/

The people that they have working on this seem to be quit intelligent (brilliant, actually), and I will no doubt be referencing their work in my own thesis.

Current S60 phones can already do this, with no help from the server. The latest ROM for my N95 8gb has flash lite 3, which supports flash streaming video (.flv), meaning full youtube, in the native browser, no help from the server.