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Actually, it is fair. Verizon making comments about there's a map for that. At&t didn't really do those commercials. That was all Apple. So, Verizon took a swing at them both really. Trying to say that they have a superior device. Especially, with that misfit commercial.

Verizon asked for it. I think they were good. I can actually do that. My wife and I can send and receive pictures without hanging up, emails, and I can check out different programs using the web. Gotta love it. LOL
I thought Sprint had first exclusives over the Pre as well as this particular handset. I think Sprint has a special deal going with Palm.
Actually Gigaddon your not.

The phone in the picture is a Vodafone handset. Obviously unlocked with an At&t sim in it.

Just don't forget that most phone manufacturers make their phones for GSM/WCDMA first. Then they are usually converted to CDMA. They will sell more GSM phones is why. CDMA are usually only made at the carriers request for a handset.
This looks disappointing. I'm not a Sprint fan but, at least the original Hero had a distinctness to its' design. I thought the chin was neat because it set it apart from every other phone. As a new operating system should be. Making it more noticable. Now people probably won't take a second look at it. They'll probably just think that it's a newer high-end version of a Touch.
I don't think Verizon not advertising had anything to do with their relationship between HTC being strained. People need to understand the plight of the big four in the US right now. It's about four major things.

1) Network capabilities including coverage, quality of service, and data transmissions.
2) Carrier offerings - features such as tethering, streaming content, navigation, etc.
3) Handset selection
4) Probably most important to the majority is 'COST OF SERVICE'

They know that windows mobile is not in any capacity at this point to compete with the new smartphone OS of today. It's nice but not flashy. Let's face it. Most smartphone users are geeks and status posers not business people. So the flashier, prettier, and other functionality besides email the better. Maybe one has a flashlight built-in or a laser pointer. Nevertheless, these are all selling points for those looking for geek creds. And it's what's selling devices today. Who can give you the most cost effective geek creds as well as productiveness. Windows therefore, is not a hot item. It's had a touchscreen for a while. Even though it was meant to be used with a stylus. While Rim has not. So, it being the latest and greatest(geek creds) it was sought after by Verizon to be able to compete with At&t(iPhone), Sprint(Palm Pre), and T-mobile(first Android handsets - G1,Touch). They learned that 'Can You Hear Me Know' was not enough. Even after buying up Alltel. They are learning that staying number one is about more than coverage. People are not that narrow minded. Honestly, I know people with Verizon that drop just as many calls as any other carrier. And I mean in good areas. So network boasting is not enough. Boasting that you have the best network with a first from a major manufacturer is a different story. I look at the number of people with Storms. It's ridiculous. I see more of those than iPhones. In all honesty, I know more people that are on their third Original Touch(HTC) due to problems than a little on Verizon and Sprint. So it's no surprise on why they didn't make a big deal of said handset either.
Be fair guys!

HTC couldn't hit this one out of the park. The Hero is their rendition of the Magic that they made for Google. It would mess up their contract to trump the handset made for the competition. Nevertheless, they are making something that will compete more closely with upcoming devices made by other manufacturers at the same time. Their looking out for their name brand. We'll have to see what the future holds. I'm still holding on to my iPhone in the meantime.
@Agent .25i

Yeah, supposedly it does do voice.

My only question is what's the range of it doing any of its' features concerning voice or data based on the range of wimax and wi-fi. I mean carriers like At&t and T-Mobile have a small enough 3G footprint which is annoying enough. I can't imagine being limited on coverage period based on the wimax and wifi footprints.
This is a really nice device. I have an iPhone 3G(s) but, I have been curious about the upcoming android handsets. I love the new innovation and doors that the new mobile platforms will bring. Due to both innovation and forced through 'Good Ole Competition'. Something that's great for all of us consumers. Nevertheless, I hope this is a great start for T-Mobile in a positive direction to catching up to the other big carriers. Now, if they can just roll out more 3G. They are getting sluggish like At&t.

I also have a watchful eye on the Palm Pre. Although, I think WEBos is a little pre-mature yet. Nevertheless, GSM/HSPA is the BOMB!!!
As far as US T-Mobile 3G, why would they support their bands when the mother ship (T-Mobile) doesn't even roam on T-Mobile US? They can get alot more sales out of 800/1900/2100 bands than, 900/1700/2100. At least overseas roamers might buy the 800/1900/2100, if they travel and their carriers supports roaming on these bands. But, if no overseas carriers roam on any combo of the 1700/2100 bands, who will buy a device with these bands? Only US T-Mo customers? How many will they sell for the cost? For the most part US T-Mobile is a discount carrier and their customer base is not looking to spend alot of money in cell phone use at all much less buy an unlocked handset.

Plus T-Mobile might forbid it. Especially with talks of that new mini, embedded sim that they have just engineered. What kind of crap is that? Might as well be with Verizon or Sprint with that stuff starting up.
I just checked GSM Arena and the i8910 will have no US 3G support at all. In my eyes this is just a device Samsung is throwing out there to show it can make a device just as good or better than Nokia. I think at this point Samsung is in the point proving phaze. If they can get enough sales, or a fan base to bite on it. They might try and sell more of a universal device in the future. But, in the meantime, I wouldn't count on alot of these being made and/or much support for this device, hardware nor firmware wise.

Nokia on the other hand will support the N97 but, the small processor is to ensure that in the distant future, a year or so, you will be hungry for more speed and power and come back with your wallet to feed the appetite. Otherwise, the N97 will have US 3G. As far as the US 3G firmware support, that's another story. All of Nokia's native devices get 5 to 10 times the firmware updates as their US counterparts. Love Symbian but, I'll wait on the next version after the N97.
Let the hive mind of Engadget get that for you.
"With all the new multitouch capable monitors coming out, which one is the best? With the release of Windows 7 I really want a touchscreen monitor for my desktop. I'm looking to get a Full HD monitor that supports multitouch and can still look great during gaming and movies. Which one has the best specs for the price?"

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