the w580i was pure junk. so cheap, and just not good. you don't know how many people flocked to that phone, and nearly ALL of them have changed phones. everyone I knew with it had their keys crack. One of my friends had their w580i fry their sim card then shut off and never turn back on. not to mention the other various problems. SE is getting cheap, they don't make em like the w810i anymore. :(
Heres to hoping at&t at least picks this up since they ditched the k850. It would make sense, as they always seem to offer the newer (well, to carriers anyway) moto's before they will touch sony or nokia.
so does this mean that if verizon has pretty poor service in my area, it should get better?
one can hope.
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this looks like a neat phone. if i hadn't upgraded to the BJ2 i would check this out!