@daryll Great comment. Thanks. Seriously. No Joke. Totally useful.

@bjsguess How bout how the BIS keeps going down nationally or globally? Thats reason enough for me to not get a Curve 8530. I decided to buy American and get a Palm Pixi instead.

I think that anyone saying Microsoft is dead in the phone business is nieve. You're talking about a company who has so much money they could dominate any field they wanted with just a "spray and pray" strategy. They'll be back. The only thing stopping them from any market dominance is the threat of more anti-trust lawsuits. If they tied cloud stuff to their phone os like webos, or got all control happy like apple they'd get sued by the EU in a heart beat. They'll be back they just have to walk carefully or they'll get hit with anti-competitive practice suits. I have a G1 as one of my phones I'm in the market for an upgrade with my sprint phone, probably going Pixi. So I'm not just some winmo fanboy babbling.

I think that anyone saying Microsoft is dead in the phone business is nieve. You're talking about a company who has so much money they could dominate any field they wanted with just a "spray and pray" strategy. They'll be back. The only thing stopping them from any market dominance is the threat of more anti-trust lawsuits. If they tied cloud stuff to their phone os like webos, or got all control happy like apple they'd get sued by the EU in a heart beat. They'll be back they just have to walk carefully or they'll get hit with anti-competitive practice suits. I have a G1 as one of my phones I'm in the market for an upgrade with my sprint phone, probably going Pixi. So I'm not just some winmo fanboy babbling.

So odd you guys all are complaining about Dell laptops. I had a Inspiron 8600 with a Radeon 9600 Pro a little while back man that thing was awesome. I kept it for like 4 years before selling it for $300 to my nephew. I never had real problems with the hardware, only once did I have issues with the wireless nic and they sent me a new one before I mailed the old one back and after that it was bulletproof. It worked great with Win XP and Ubuntu. So maybe they've gone down hill recently but back 5 years ago Dell rocked.

Actually thinking of it I remembered odd phones like the samsung highlight on tmobile probably don't have procs powerful enough to run android. But I know the Instinct HD have a proc as powerful as the average android ones. They were discussing it on a instinct forum recently. Either way I can see why the lower os' exist with slow procs out there. But I don't understand why they would launch a high end phone like the instinct hd with its higher end hardware set with a crappy os. They were going to name the samsung moment the InstinctQ but they changed it. Too bad the instinct line didn't just jump to android from now on.

Booted up a Galaxy at AT&T? You mean an Eternity or an Impression both running some Java OS with Touchwiz on top? Your thoughts are exactly what I was saying a couple days back. I just returned my Instinct HD, awesome hardware. Very awesome. But the buggy ass BREW os it has on it is holding it back. I could have possibly justified keeping it if it was Android even if it was $250 before tax. But it was $250 for a phone with an OS that would crash and restart when I had either the music player open or the email client open when a text message came in. I mean I could even keep it if it was $100 before tax, maybe even $150 plus tax but even that would be pushing it with phones like the Pixi at $100 and the BB Curve 8530 coming out next week. Either was touchscreen dumbphone os' need to go the way of the dinosaur.

Well the fact that it has a smartphone os means its no longer a featurephone. Also to me it doesn't sound too much like a low end phone I mean its got an 800mhz proc which is higher than most android phones that us carriers currently sell.

Well actually wouldn't Samsung have more three? They have Android, Winmo, Symbian(licensee), Bada(newly announced), and BREW(licensed from Qualcomm) which was used on the Instinct line. I know BREW isn't a smartphone OS but I was just throwing out all the OS' I could think of Samsung pedaling.

Macs are gay. Their hardware is nice. Their software is nice. Combine them together you get anal retention nazi dictator computers. I'll happily buy a mac computer minus the software for the cost of the parts added up. Then I'll install Windows 7 and Ubuntu. Fancy looking computer without the dictator Jobs inside.