The fact is this: Apple does not have the means to perform thorough quality assurance on any app. This is up to the developer. We have our own product managers and quality assurance testers, and we are liable to our users and the courts if we do anything evil or stupid. Apple may catch a few shallow bugs in the review process, but let's face it, the real things they are looking for are not bugs, but violations of the terms of service. This is all about lawyers, not quality, and it shows that the model of Apple's justice system is guilty until proven innocent. They don't trust us, and I resent that, because the vast majority of us are trustworthy.

NOTHING? READ THIS POST AND THEN GOOGLE SOME.

"insky @ Sep 10th 2009 6:08PM

Quite a different attitude between the two companies, I would say.

"We rejected this in our online store, but you're more than welcome to side load it."

Versus

"If you use the rejected apps the terrorists win!!!"

If Apple could win legally, hacking community would never been allowed for iphone in the first place. Oh but they tried. They mentioned that due to hacking there is chance that ATT towers will be hacked as well etc. Its the point where Apple lawyers just say no to Jobs and give him Apple cedar to calm him down otherwise Jobs would just sue Palm, European Union, Hacking Community and Chinese government just to have iphone the only better phone in market. Did you guys even listen to him when he was talking to Pogue about Ebooks, Amazon and why he didnt have camera on Itouch? By god people!

Oh I just wish that Ryan and Peter would be able to join you guys. But can't wait for you guys to ask all those questions that Mr. Mossberg did not.

Joshua you got to let Paul know and you too, to accept a call on Palm Pre you just have to open slider and it answers the call. No need to keep dialer app open.

so they got all this money for sites they dont even own? Wow!

http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/index.shtml
it shows 280 countries. Go read

I thought Sprint sold all their cell site and towers to 3rd party company.

can someone please tell me if Pre is licensed from FCC yet? Can they really have Pre ordered for mass production even before FCC approval? I am very upbeat for Pre and hope it release before June 30 but I am just concerned when they keep on saying that Pre in hands of testers is early beta. If they didn't finalize the product yet how can they license the product, go for production and deliver it within next 2 month and half? I hope they break some records and still deliver Pre before their own deadline. I am more concerned about quality control (have very ugly past with Palm Treos) of Pre. I dont want to be the one with dead pixel on screen or unable to press P on keyboard.

The only thing I care is Flash update for Pre will be free update at the end of year :)

One thing I know about Palm is that they are innovators. They invented Palm OS (original). They mess up financially and stretegically. But they were the one who brought is im-like chat, hardware slider to mute sound (ringer). Many tried but Palm OS built-in calender still kick other OS .... One hand use, many shortcuts to access apps or other useful functions. There are many ways Palm management sucks big time. But innovation is still in Palm DNA. I still think if Palm never gave Palm Source away when they were above any other smartphone (remember treo 600 days?) they would be among leaders right now. Their management messed up and they had to start from scratch with new OS. Now the debate of Palm trying to get their engineers time to innovate by going to devils pond (windows mobile) and still beat other numerous smartphone manufactures. Or their bringing Palm OS on Viagra to get Centro out, I still have my faith in Palm engineers and their interest in small details that make them still the best user friendly smartphone on earth (before Iphone). I don't know how the new OS will be but I know this, it will be user friendly, easier one hand useable, feature rich, and few small innovations that will Apple and Nokia think why the he'll they didn't think of this. Good luck Palm.