you guys really need to put up a torrent of each episode as well

Just a nitpick, but you said "Sammy probably started with its Beat DJ (or an Ocean 2) "
Pantech made the Ocean 2, not Samsung.

I think there could be more potential for these cloud "operating systems" if they would start to use the new web frameworks that are out there, like Google Gears for data caching, or Silverlight for a faster and slicker UI.

The cloud os projects out there now are useless. You'd have more of an "operating system" installing Drupal or Wordpress.

That phone is fugly, makes my Ocean 2 look like a work of art

Your Zune feed needs some album art

Hell Yeah! all i have is the wii zapper but that hand cannon is awesome, i would definitely buy a box that had the game and two of those

oh no you didn't....

Come on engadget, you could have at least used a current-gen Squircle Zune for the picture. sheesh

Would you say it's better than the instinct, or no?

Do you own a krave? Or is that just based on playing with them in store? My Hell-io contract is running out soon and I'm interested in this phone