Claimed talk time is 5 hours. Sadly, that is entirely irrelevant on a large screen EVDO smartphone. The handset has a small battery at 1150 mAh. Those talk times are based on screen off, no use of GPS, no use of wifi, no use of data connection, no use of anything but the 1x CDMA for voice. No matter how efficient the chipset, it still has to drive a sizable screen for all its activities, handle data connections, processor power from use of the GUI, programs, bluetooth, etc. And those hardware and feature elements chips are power hungry.
It is probably battery life will not be a strong point with that small capacity battery, especially for people who don't pony up for the $70 handsfree charger and a car charger.

@boomchicka: Pictures are problably flying from Palm's PR Firm to the HQ so a couple of interns can try and get a raise. But everyone else is laughing at this shallow and silly standup and the fact that it means implies the Pre is behind schedule since it was supposed to be handed out and wasn't.

You own posts sounds like you are own of those interns! This is engadget, not the National Inquirer LOL.

I am no iPhone fanboy but at least they handed out the real thing!

Does everyone reliaze these were not handed out. they were not really in the swag bags, there was a coupon that said: go to palm booth to sign up for it whe it does come out. out of a couple hundred attendees who got the coupon, about five went to the booth and were photographed with alpha models!
LOL @ the three people here gushing over PT Barnum posting; and congrats to the majority who know a fake dog and pony show when they see one!

@loosley coupled:
So your point is to compare a 700wx...a Two-Year-Old phone to give us your impression of the Pro? And then calling people "deluded."

Your posts on this page make no sense. They add no facts.

The Pro has great reviews. It has powerful features your BB and iPhone do not. It is lightening fast.

The market, like the world is made up of segments. I get that you are disappointed that despite your irrational views on Windows mobile, the 50 million people who bought smartphones with windows mobile are somehow not getting your very important message.I feel your disappointment at not reaching us with your very important message that you tried a TWO YEAR OLD Widows mobile device and it made you unhappy. No one listened to chicken little either -- to our great regret.

Good luck with your Blackberry or iPhone. I would go to a Blackberry or iPhone post here and do what you are doing, except I am a bit busy to be a TROL.

I gave my comments. They serious reviews and reflect the real world. If you want to say they are "delusional" you are just not a serious person.

The Pre has to sell for less. It is not aimed at the power business user. Probably $50 less for the Pre

Sorry if this upsets anyone, and apparently being positive on this device does upset some people for some reason, but our company will be picking up 40.

You get everything you get on a top BB but with all the added features of Windows Mobile. If I read one more slam on windows mobile by people who don't work with it and know its power I will laugh my socks off. Keep your iPhone, its slow performance, its inability to tether, its less capable GPS, its monthly costs 60% double my unlimited everything, and the simple basic objective fact that a good windows mobile like this can do everything an iPhone can do, better, faster and cheaper, and it can do many things the iPhone simply cannot.

I have tried the GSM version and it is a tight, feature rich device. One of our coworkers brought it to an out of the way meeting at a place with no wifi, and guess what, we all hooked out four laptops up via his single Treo Pro. Can the iPhone do that? Sorry. We know it can't do it even with one laptop. I can go on.

I think the point is that we will keep seeing advances. How do you know the sensor is tiny and noisy?
Everything is relative. There are people with $1500 digital slr who will snear at $500 point and shoot cameras, people with $3000 slr who sneer at the $1500 guys, and full format people who laugh at the $3000 slr guys for even taking off the dust cap.

I was a shooter for a living some years back and that $1500 slr and the $3000 one with good glass, don't have the ability to GPS tag my phot -- and put int on my facebook or email it five seconds later -- like my phones camera can!

every advance is good news. most images shot by individuals that are SEEN by others nowadays are shot on cell phones. All those pictures sitting on your (and my) unconnected cameras 32gb card by be noiseless, but they also by their nature obscure.

I think all the developments in connected smartphone cameras are very good news

LOL. iPhone users weep and get all cranky when they asks for a capability and find that WM users have it.
Why is it iphone users don't realize when they list things they want on iphones, which are long available on windows mobile, they look so silly?

My wife and I are sitting in the park catching up with work on our laptops both connected to the net by my single Windows Mobile Sprint phone which is broadcasting its connection via secure wifi to our laptops. we our doing this on my $40 a month Sprint Sero plan which has unlimited data.

With an iPhone on ATT it would cost $150 a month to do the same thing, only the iphone cant even do this becasue it can't broadcast its connection to ATT data service via its wifi. :)

O the way home, we can use google maps, or better yet, if I like Garmin mobile, which I don't pay any monthly fee for, and go for a ride. We can also use Garmin mobile on our Sprint WM phone in Tokyo or Cairo. :)

Alternately I can have unlimited data, unlimited minutes, unlimited Sprint provided Telenav GPS (on a receiver within my phone as good as the top Garmin), unlimited all included for $99 a month on Sprint. :)

Do we have iFart or iBoobs from the iPhone store? No. Instead we a much more sophisticated and powerful operating system that can the very demanding and powerful tasks.

of course we don't have our phones for eyecandy, and we are not interested in paying three times as much for ATT service that has worse coverage.

@daKrisht,
Of course, if you bothered to read the comments, that is not Palm's price nor Sprints price, that is an artificially inflated price Best Buy lists in order to make the subsidized price seem more attracitve.

You must think the Nokias, Att handsets, Verizon handsets etc are all "epic fails" too since they are also often priced at Best Buy $100 more than anywhere else.

The handset is $599 no contract and $250 with contract and it will see strong corporate sales, you know, among grownups who want a very powerful phone and not a toy.

It will sell strong on Sprint, and Verizon is picking it up in May.

the ingromant "lump" consumer isn't going to care that unlike iphones and Pre [when is it coming May or June?] this is massively powerful handset that can run full versions of Garmin and Tomtom anywhere in the world, that it can be set to be a wifi hotspot, that there are hundreds of major programs avaialbe on windows mobile, that it browses in Flash, that it has better battery life, is fully supported by enteprisem, and has removable storage up to 32 gb.
The "ignorant lumps" buy phones as fashion. This is a power user device.