even with the old $300 credit that people used, you could still get every HDTV that best buy offered online for at least a couple hundred dollars less.

this is like verizon's version of the lg prada, so why would the voyager have wifi if the lg prada didn't have wifi? unlimited internet, vcast videos, and the option of downloading music right to your phone all comes included for $15/month. if you guys are gonna pay $300 for a phone but not pay $15/month to use the data, then you need to buy a motorola w315 instead and save your $300. =)

why does buy.com say that this brown zune is for preorder? zunes have been out forever, so why are they taking preorders for it?

"Or you could buy a brand new one on buy.com for $100.

http://www.buy.com/prod/microsoft-zune-30gb-digital-multimedia-device-brown-audio-player-video/q/loc/111/203171424.html"

"Uh, what? It costs about $300 less too, more like $500 less when the iPhone first came out.

Since when do people compare success only by units sold and not the cost or profit ratio?"

when people compare how many xbox 360's and how many wii's and how many playstation 3's are sold, they will tell you that the wii is blowing the other consoles out of the water in amount sold. they don't put an asterisk next to the wii's figures and say, 'because it's $350 cheaper than the PS3 and $150 cheaper than the xbox 360.'" do they? although the differenct in price is a factor, the wii is still out selling the other consoles. same with these two phones. although the differenct in price is a factor, the chocolate is keeping pace with the iphone.

anyone know if the phone is gonna be as big as the original? i actually like the way the first one looks, but when you see it in person, you reallize tha it's just huge! no bluetooth + huge monstrous phone= lame