Yeah, like the iPhone guy said... WM lost .2 percent market share of a vastly bigger market and yet still had GROWTH and sold 5 MILLION more devices in 2008 than iPhone, but pointing out the .2 percent has justified his goofy Lincoln ramblings and the total demise of WM. Not. Cripes, everyone on the list will be in trouble WHEN they make WM pretty(wm7) and put some advertising behind it.

It doesnt have to do any of that... It just has to outperform and eventually outsell the phone that did that...

Nobody really gives a crap about the 1 million in 72 hours thing.. As obviously Palm wont have the insane amount of marketing money and retail stores in place to accomplish this or the created "worldwide hype" that also came with Hundreds of millions in advertising...


But its great that a fanboy would try to put the bar that high, otherwise its a 'fail'.

Have you even seen one? That looks accurate to me. They are smaller than previous Treos... You actually might have something there comparing thickness but....

The Treo Pro is the perfect form factor...

fun!

Yeah, That would not make sense! I mean think about it, phone turnover under contract is 2 years, and in 10+ years CDMA will be depricated, so why would they ever want to make a phone that wont work in 10 years and target it towards the big US CDMA market and sell a few more million phones. Its brilliant for them to stay away.... Switching out the radios has proven so difficult in the past....

Im sure you are right that Apple is fine with the number of sales they are getting and wouldnt want to sell more.... what???

Whats really funny is that now other fanboys will again quote Mossberg as a credible unbiased news source all over the blog-o-sphere showing that of course there is no other phone to own unless it says Apple...

@derF and Tucker: So to you brilliant phone designers, What do you want this to look like? Keyboard on top? Maybe if the phone was a sphere...

Nobody that actually uses one wants them to change the button configuration or keyboard(its one of the best out there). So making it a little smaller and hopefully thinner and no external antenna and packing the goods inside this one: evdo, gps, wifi,320x320,more memory and processing and probably better battery life with 6.1 and hopefully the chipset and then a good camera and a memory slot and a brighter screen and you finally have the ultimate Treo...This could be converged heaven.

Palm, if you want to jump into the new 'cool phone' game with the xperia and Diamond, go for it.. But not with the Treo line!!! Please!

Awesome!!!

I bet way more than you'd think.

Exactly! Most of the people doing the hyping aren't developers or just dont get it...

That would be true except that you can write for WM(and yes WM5/WM6 though not with the "official" SDKs) with eVC++ 3.0 and 4.0 which both were and still are Free... I would almost guarantee that over half of the commercial applications out there for Windows Mobile are still being actively developed on eVC++. So whats this about a bird-brain... Please guys, know your facts.. We all arent haters I actually like the looks of the OS and SDK, but the misguided enthusiasm as something new and a breakthru looks a little silly...