Pricing will be very competitive, I'm looking forward to testing out one of these myself when it becomes available. I'd rather have a nice 73" LaserVue DLP for my living room than a smaller LCD/Plasma.

http://www.tvsnob.com/archives/018019.php

It uses DLP technology so all they need to do is pulse the lasers at the same frequency as the little mirrors. This happens thousands of times a second so there is no flicker.

One more thing, this HDR-CX12 is more like SONY's own attempt to fix their own HDR-CX7's crappy lowlight performance.

"The HV20 is a bloody tape camcorder, we are talking about flash memory HF10 vs CX12 here."

That's irrelevent. The point is Canon's HDV beat SONY's HDV in video quality, I guess the truth hurts for the SONY fanboys. I think It's safe to say AVCHD vs AVCHD, the Canon will likely come out on top too.

"The CX12s Exmor CMOS technology does some seriously good work in low light. The colours, contrast, exposure, white balance, and most importantly, the noise, sucks on the HF10 in low light. Looking at those resized charts at 15lux on ccinfo does not give you the real difference at low light."

SONY's Exmor CMOS technology doesn't seem to be any better than Canon's proven imaging technology. According to dpreview, the Alpha A700 didn't do any better in lowlight than the Canon EOS 40D. In fact the images in lowlight have too much NR and as a result smudges out fine detail. What's worse, it seems like you cannot disable some of the NR since it's an integral part of the Exmor CMOS sensor.

"The CX12 also offers face detection, which is a very useful feature, as are slow motion and better still images"

Smile detection is a gimick. I buy a HD camcorder for video quality, not gimmicks.

"And the reviews on the internet are hardly useful. The only way you can judge the cameras is by testing them out yourself side-by-side in real life or by looking through all the videos posted on the internet. There you will see that the colours, white balance, and noise-reduction are much better on the Sony."

Actually the reviews are very useful especially when it's from a place like ccinfo where they do camcorders for a living. Same with dpreview for digital still cameras. Only fanboys buy camcorders from blind brand loyalty based on useless gimmicks and marketing buzzwords. Also most people don't have the money or luxury to buy multiple cameras to try them out before deciding so they need to rely on professional reviews whether it's from a magazine or online.

When it comes to consumer level HD movie capture quality Canons are better. Anyone who owns a HV20 knows this. Nothing from SONY in the same price range provide better movie quality. If you think the SONYs are better, point me to a professional review that says SONY's offering is better than Canon's old HV20.

I understand that, but ask any person who is in the market for a camera phone if they'd rather have a good 3MP camera or a mediocre 8MP camera.

Yes, that's why it looks like a DULL.

"...Have you ever heard of pixel pitch? (dot pitch)

Try writing a word doc on a 42 inch screen with a dot pitch of .48, which is what that 42 inch monitor would have.

The only thing "dull " around here is your brain. Christ."

...Have you ever heard of a DUMBASS that sits 3 feet from his 42" 1920x1080 LCD writing a word doc bitching about pixel pitch? I guess you haven't looked in the mirror lately eh GENIUS?

If this Super Upconversion technology is better than the highend REON upconversion chip used in Toshiba's XA-2 HD DVD player at an affordable price, then I'm sold! I have a HUGE DVD collection of more than 1000 movies.

From my experience using just a standard $100 upconverting DVD player, I can tell you that upconversion is good enough for the majority of people out there, even the ones with HDTVs. For example, on my cheap $100 upconverting DVD player, the upconverted image sometimes rival the best broadcast HD channels. Imagine what Toshiba's technology could do for the masses if it's upconversion is even better than the highly regarded REON chip.

Choice is a good thing.

Wow we have a smart@ss in the house, hey since you are sooooo smart what's that in the middle of that crater? Is that your mom's igloo?