With all those specs they can call it the Blackberry Booger for all I care. I buy a phone based on specs and functionality. Not the cutsie name.

Joe: You are a moron. I know you probably hear that at least four or five times a day but still. You miss the point of this post and the aggravated responses from the readers. Of course we could explain it is hard to post in phonics. (Phonics, you'll have to look it up I'm sure but you will find that was an insult.)

3G voice only means that you'll get downside of more rapid battery drain but none of the upside of faster data. Seriously, I think TMO is happy being 4th or 5th place. Good customer service is fine but wireless customers need real, 21st century wireless technology. Otherwise, your customer base will just remain the teen texting scene. Like Joe.

NuShrike: I think it's just the opposite. I think the haters are more vocal because they're devices DON'T get the coverage that youngcalhottie speaks against in her post. She's right. There are multitudes of S60 and WM devices floating around out there. And have been for years. However, it would seem that none of them are remarkable enough to generate the kind of buzz and interest that the iPhone has.

Reminds me again of the iPod. It was released against multitudes of other MP3 players, both cheaper and boasting more features. Also, most making barely a modest splash in the industry. Why? Because Apple, with a more expensive and less feature rich device, managed to catch the user experience. It clicked with people. Millions and millions of people. Apple has done the same with the iPhone. They have created a stable, elegant, and simple to use device that has WORLDWIDE appeal. WM has yet to get past the "stable" part, let alone "simple" and "elegant". All I know about S60 is that it's a decent platform but seems to have more appeal across the pond than here. The N95 looks nice, and received and continues to receive it's fair share of coverage here. But on that I read complaints like "weak GPS signal", "cheap feel" and "no qwerty" keyboard". Sorry but as nice as the N95 is, I think you can't consider yourself a very strong "smartphone" without a qwerty keyboard. Just my humble opinion though.

Do you really think that there isn't something to the iPhone, that coming up on nearly a year after it's release that it's still the most talked about cell phone on the market. And not just the US but world wide? Maybe for many people, sending an MMS just isn't end all be all of a cell phone. Especially when the iPhone so eloquently can email a photo with no MMS charges?? And it's not like it WON'T send an MMS. (Mine will now being jailbroken)

And I don't know what forums you are reading but I've seen plenty of coverage on this forum of S60 and WM device. But I ask you, just how exciting can you make the announcement of WM 6 to 6.1 update? So iPhone's are still waiting on MMS messaging. Aren't WM users still waiting on native TXT threading?

I think this and all similar forums are doing a great job at covering all of the latest mobile related gadgets. No one is making anyone here read the Apple threads let alone stop and respond to them. If you believe you must just because there are so many of them, maybe you should turn off the PC and go get some fresh air.

I really wish the iPhone haters would just curl with with there Nokia's or WM devices and let us enjoy our devices. Really, do you Nokia and WM fanboys have nothing better to do than troll the Apple threads?

Trooth,

You are wrong on every single one of your points. If you really believe that Mac is all looks and no performance, then you just haven't owned one. Comparing any system that uses a UNIX/Linux based operating system to that hunk of shite OS of Microsoft's is like comparing a brick house to a straw hut. MS is a buggy, virus ridden, bloated, overpriced piece that can't even compete with free OS'es like Ubuntu in power and performance. I think it's humorous when someone who supports a fascists and immoral company like Microsoft, who is publicly embarrassed by it's own work (Vista that they are sweeping under the rug ASAP) called Mac users FANBOYS. I may be a Mac fanboy but is that any better than being a Microsoft brainwashed drone?

Jason and Ayle:

You have a good point. It seems that EVERY thread points back to a "versus" Apple topic no matter what the subject. If Apple and it's products are such the non-threat to Windows as it's made out to be, I wonder why everything keeps getting compared Apple products?? Personally, I think there is room in the world for both, but I get sick of the attacks on Apple. It's completely unnecessary. I don't have much love for Windows but understand why some use it.

(Can't afford Mac's)

Hee hee.. KIDDING!!!!

Brandon: FU

You dorks that live in your mamma's basement and keep supporting the Winblows machine are the real idiots. You'll swallow whatever piece of OS crap that Gates throws at you and spend hours and hours patching and upgrading it. Have fun with Vista. As long as it's around anyway. They are quickly sweeping it out the door and working day and night to push you out another POS OS to slow down your PC's.

No.

Yes. It is handy. Ask anyone who's tried (8595 and Tilt users) to dial a number from the horizontal keyboard. A regular dial pad is nice. However, I have to agree with the poster who commented that this device is hideous. They should have made it look more like the Ocean.

Wish they'd go with the mini usb connector though for sync and charging. That sure makes life easier.