FTW

the movie was too good to pick just one part!!

fletch... your insane to belive in price fixing that or you do not understand the tearm you used. Now as for changing things around... they did not you just never read the fine print so your complaints are unfounded. As for other details you may have been told upfront of data limits though you never heard them. As this is the issue with most people. Hear one thing but not useualy what it is the reps are saying. Back to the topic at hand. They are doing this because it will benifit them in one way or another. companies like all people think this way. Google and verizon may have some sort of contract in the works to make huge amounts of money between the two. That or google may just lease the spectrum. Thats my thought on it all.

-Matt

all valid points and i see your side. In the end i never see the cdma providers moving to gsm. I also dont see that as a problem. My reasons for this are that phones can be built with all this tech. in one device. When people actualy choose to leave the usa for at least once and global phones capeability becomes more of a requirement like in eroupe ( many countries smaller space) will we begin to see more world phones out of those providers. As for operating systems i see crippled as a way to introduce the phones the way the provider wants them to be. Its a pain in the butt for most of us who want more out of our phones, though from the many people i meet in a day it seems they rather have just a phone. So as for calling your provider about your phone that is unlocked for provider free it seems to me that yes the choose not to help you or provide any assistance that is not the responceability of the provider because the phones they sell are setup out of the box. When you call them to get help with a phone they never setup the company loses money just by the fact you called for something that was done for the phones they sell at the store. The only way this can change is if companies like nokia and motorola have all the requred access to set up any phone for any carrier at point of sale or for online orders have it hook up in a way like the iphone. Hook it up through usb and it loads motorolas web page and says who is your provider? (t-mobile) great! your mobile number? (123456789) Thank you your phone is now being programed for that carrers network. one minute later your setup slide in your sim and go. this though would cost alot of money that compaines like motorola in my opinion can not afford. It is a great wish though! I think the only way this can happen is if the cell phone providers where in some way forced to stop contracting customers. Well any way that is my two cents this time around. let me know what you think.

-Chris

all cell phone providers have programed the networks to work one way or another. the reason for some phones to have things work on one provider vs another is just that. now why does a cell phone provider care about activating a phone not badged to that company? the big reason is that they can not provide customer service for a undadged phone software is different and things just cant add up to how the provider wants to deal with quality. The only company who does not care is criket because they just get whatever and want the service. The same goes for all other carriers the difference is that those carriers care about churn and customer retention in most cases (*sprint haha*). So when you complain about carriers taking only this or that phone its for the greater good and thats the quality of your service with your carrier.

i want it to say i won it. i love you engadget mobile

verizon wireless is getting this as well.

verizon's phone rules :-)