In Yorkshire, they will now be known as T'Orange, and people will go down t'phone shop to buy t'phone from t'sales assistant, then go t'pub to show off their new t'phone while they have a t'pint with t'mates.

(You may need to be from t'area t'get this)

There are other navigation apps out there, this is just a cradle for TomTom, which actually works fine without it anyway.

Another vote for the Sansa Clip here!

I have the 8gb, and I am already an iPod/iTunes user. I just couldn't justify the prices of the Shuffle or Nano, when the Clip is both better and cheaper.

It already has been, although it's proving very difficult to get with all the current issues.

As I'm from the UK, I fail to see the relevance of Austrailian, French, and Irish comments, in relation to an article about batteries and firmware updates?

Newsflash, contributors and readers are from around the world. More intresting news as it happens!

Doze, nobody mentioned Nokia, we're specifically talking WM touchscreen and non-touchscreen phones.

HTC are still the #1 manufacturer for WM touchscreen, and #2 for non-touchscreen.

You lose.

They are only ahead of HTC on non-touchscreen WM phones, this does not include non phone PDA, or touchscreen smartphones, which HTC makes roughly 50% of worldwide.

The non-touchscreen market is peanuts.

If it was fuelled by Aftershock, you get the booze, and still keep the funky colours!

OK, so you buy a Macbook with Leopard 10.5.2, and iLife 08, then in September, the new Macbook is released, still running Leopard, but now on 10.5.7 (for example), but the give away iLife 09, which includes extra applications, and start selling iLife 09 as a stand alone product for those that choose to upgrade.

Your OS updates from 10.5.0 to 10.5.whatever, which are your system updates, are free of charge.

Your software packages are not free, it's your choice if you buy software or not, you have the option.

It's possible to run the iPod touch 1.1.3 update and not buy the extra software, so you still get the fixes, and enhancements minus the software pack.

I don't personally wish to pay for it, but I have the choice, as does everyone else. Nobody *has* to buy the extra software, but you're all entitled to the 1.1.3 update itself for free.

Half the whinging seems to be from people that don't understand they are paying for a software licence.

And it's not just Apple. Dell, HP, you name it, they will bundle additional software after the release of a product which new users get free, but early adopters would have to buy.

Hell, my car came with a CD player and JBL speakers as standard, yet 6 months before, it was factory OEM speakers and a cassette player. Are those people entitled to an upgrade to their audio system for free?